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  #11  
Old 10-21-2007, 03:30 PM
oober oober is offline
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Default Re: $100NL - Why do we call here?

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Why do we call here?

[/ QUOTE ] We have KK. I mean that's the justification but is QQ open pushing? is AK open pushing? Makes no sense. I've open pushed KK/AA before when tilting but never QQ/AK. I don't fold here but I can see an argument for it.

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We call because there are too many donks like this fool!!!!
Full Tilt Poker Game #3923124531: Table Underhill - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:01:22 ET - 2007/10/21
Seat 1: oober ($100)
Seat 2: PimpinDonks ($131.30)
Seat 3: safetyblitz_20 ($57.45)
Seat 4: sdrwkb ($90.90)
Seat 5: DownByOne ($48.50)
Seat 6: TheMar ($69.90)
Seat 7: GIVINcashAWAY ($95.15)
Seat 8: kintel ($73.50)
Seat 9: One Mic 36 ($12.90)
TheMar posts the small blind of $0.50
GIVINcashAWAY posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to oober [As Ad]
kintel raises to $4
One Mic 36 folds
oober raises to $12
PimpinDonks folds
safetyblitz_20 folds
sdrwkb folds
DownByOne folds
TheMar folds
GIVINcashAWAY folds
kintel raises to $73.50, and is all in
oober calls $61.50
kintel shows [Jc Jh]
oober shows [As Ad]
*** FLOP *** [5s Jd 3c]
*** TURN *** [5s Jd 3c] [Kd]
*** RIVER *** [5s Jd 3c Kd] [3h]
kintel shows a full house, Jacks full of Threes
oober shows two pair, Aces and Threes
kintel wins the pot ($145.50) with a full house, Jacks full of Threes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $148.50 | Rake $3
Board: [5s Jd 3c Kd 3h]
Seat 1: oober showed [As Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 2: PimpinDonks didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: safetyblitz_20 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: sdrwkb didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: DownByOne (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: TheMar (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: GIVINcashAWAY (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: kintel showed [Jc Jh] and won ($145.50) with a full house, Jacks full of Threes
Seat 9: One Mic 36 didn't bet (folded)
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Old 10-21-2007, 04:33 PM
Chargers In 07 Chargers In 07 is offline
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Default Re: $100NL - Why do we call here?

Yeah, i've had donks throw money at me to like this but none of them have been 15/5.
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:26 PM
Landlord79 Landlord79 is offline
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Default Re: $100NL - Why do we call here?

I think the 16/5 is key here. 5% is a small raising range and the villain hadn't gotten out of line to date.

I think calling is a default line that multi-tablers use because they can't make an accurate read due to time constraints and generally autopiloting. And I'll stand my ground on that. I've played sheriff plenty of times and been right, but this seems like an exception. (If anyone wants to start a sheriff thread, I can think of 3 off hand that I've made in the last 5k hands.)

Default lines are simply that, defaults. When you can play up to your normal ability, you should. We're not bots!
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:52 PM
Landlord79 Landlord79 is offline
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Default Re: $100NL - Why do we call here?

There is a difference between 16/5 and 37/21/5

Bodog No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($87.00)
<font color="#C00000">SB <font color="#A500AF">(Overactive Player)</font> ($109.75)</font>
BB ($43.75)
UTG ($159.00)
UTG+1 ($17.50)
MP1 ($50.25)
<font color="#C00000">Landlord79 ($99.50)</font>
MP3 ($118.75)
CO ($90.75)

Preflop: Landlord79 is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Landlord79 raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB <font color="#A500AF">(Overactive Player)</font> raises to $19.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Landlord79 calls $15.75.

Flop: ($40.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Overactive Player bets $40.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Landlord79 bets $79.75 (All-In)</font>, Overactive Player calls $39.25.

Turn: ($200) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>
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River: ($200) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $200

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Overactive Player has 2c 3c (high card, queen).
Landlord79 has Jh Jd (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: Landlord79 wins $200. </font>
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:03 PM
Chargers In 07 Chargers In 07 is offline
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Default Re: $100NL - Why do we call here?

new l/c thread?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($50)
Button ($47.75)
Hero ($52.05)
BB ($75.20)
UTG ($94.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP posts a blind of $0.75.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP (poster) raises to $49.75</font>, Button calls $47.75 (All-In), <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $52.05</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($150.05) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: ($150.05) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($150.05) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $148

Results below:
Hero has Ad As (two pair, aces and nines).
MP has Jd Jh (two pair, jacks and nines).
Button has Kc Ah (one pair, nines).
Outcome: Hero wins $148.
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Old 10-21-2007, 08:26 PM
TakenItEasy TakenItEasy is offline
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Default Re: $100NL - Why do we call here?

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may be misclick (don't know how).

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done that when typing in a bet and accidentally add a digit.
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Old 10-22-2007, 08:57 AM
BJJIII BJJIII is offline
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Default Re: $100NL - Why do we call here?

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may be misclick (don't know how).

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done that when typing in a bet and accidentally add a digit.

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Same here. I try to use the slider more now
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:52 AM
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Default Re: $100NL - Why do we call here?

How often (percentage-wise) do you think he players QQ/AK/KK like this? If you can take an estimate then you can estimate what you should do. If you can't come up with a reasonable estimate then we can't solve the problem now can we? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:59 AM
XTR1000 XTR1000 is offline
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Default Re: $100NL - Why do we call here?

missclicks AI happen frequently on iPoker, which has an extra "raise AI"-button
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:53 AM
Landlord79 Landlord79 is offline
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Default Re: $100NL - Why do we call here?

I don't know if I have ever "accidentally" stuffed AI.
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