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Old 10-21-2007, 09:39 AM
Bramsterdam Bramsterdam is offline
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A falls 4/46: you win current pot
Villain improves 15/46: villain wins current pot
Blank 27/46: you stack villain on the river

vs.

Your equity against villains 15 outs on the turn (haven't got PokerStove on this computer).
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Old 10-21-2007, 09:41 AM
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but only call more money if he hit a King/9/spade then SURELY pushing turn is way better than checking.


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he's calling any non-A river apparantly.
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:13 AM
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He put me on a overpair, he decided he would call even an all in on the flop( he is around 51% favourite) he does not care about the turn because he thinks his all money is in already( even if it is not), he made his decision on the flop and he will fold only if an ace comes on the river.

This happened in a home game, I talked to guy later and he told me this.
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:21 AM
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Default Re: Theory(maybe dumb) question

your friend wouldn't happen to be jamie gold would he?
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:26 AM
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LOL, no. Actually I pushed the turn, later after we talked It got me thinking , maybe I should have bet less If I had known he was gonna call anything
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:28 AM
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Hi all,
Assuming everybody has 100BB, u UTG raised preflop 4BB with TT, SB(He is a loose calling station) calls only. He exposed his cards K9 spades and the flop comes with 8s 9h 3s, u bet the pot he calls. Turn 2c. U know he will call the turn every time no matter how much u bet, would u go all in or bet only a fair amount that makes his call incorrect?
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With only this info it's a push.

If he will call ANY bet on any non A river checking is obv superior.
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:28 AM
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no you should have checked.

i'll spell it out a little more..

when does he make a bigger mistake? putting the money in with equity in the pot, or putting the money in with 0 equity in the pot?
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:30 AM
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you can push the turn and have 70% equity, or get it in on a safe river and have 100% equity if he is calling anyway.

checking the turn minimises our losses and maximises our winnings
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:33 AM
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I was assuming villain is not going to call a bet on the river if he misses...
if thatīs the case push turn.
if he puts in money on a nlank turn check obv.
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:33 AM
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Yeah if he is calling any non A river ai then checking is >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>> pushing. I didnt read that he was doing this.

You can play the hand perfectly.
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