Theory(maybe dumb) question

FireCorp · #1 10-21-2007, 07:38 AM

Hi all,
Assuming everybody has 100BB, u UTG raised preflop 4BB with TT, SB(He is a loose calling station) calls only. He exposed his cards K9 spades and the flop comes with 8s 9h 3s, u bet the pot he calls. Turn 2c. U know he will call the turn every time no matter how much u bet, would u go all in or bet only a fair amount that makes his call incorrect?
Thanks for the answers

monkover · #2 10-21-2007, 07:48 AM

lol ez push.

monkover · #3 10-21-2007, 07:49 AM

and yeah this question is stupid. the more money he gets in behind the more ev he looses obv

Bramsterdam · #4 10-21-2007, 08:24 AM

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and yeah this question is stupid. the more money he gets in behind the more ev he looses obv

[/ QUOTE ]Checking turn, getting money in on the river when you're 100% sure you have the best hand might be > money in on the turn.

I like these kind of questions, but I doing the math.

*edit: imo people are too results orientated. They wonder what to do when they have XX in situation Y, but thinking about these kind of questions is also usefull.

scallop · #5 10-21-2007, 08:29 AM

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and yeah this question is stupid. the more money he gets in behind the more ev he looses obv

[/ QUOTE ]Checking turn, getting money in on the river when you're 100% sure you have the best hand might be > money in on the turn.

I like these kind of questions, but I doing the math.

*edit: imo people are too results orientated. They wonder what to do when they have XX in situation Y, but thinking about these kind of questions is also usefull.

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We have the best right now... and we are 100% sure our opponent calls out push.

Waiting to see if we have 100% the winning hand seems like we can then lose a bunch of money when he doesnt call our river push and is really results orientated.

Nielsio · #6 10-21-2007, 08:30 AM

If you know you'll both see the river no matter what and he'll call the river no matter what, then you may as well check.

Unknown Soldier · #7 10-21-2007, 08:33 AM

^^^ yup

this depends on the probability of him calling various rivers.

FireCorp · #8 10-21-2007, 09:14 AM

Why would I check? I wanna make him pay 4 his draw + I have the best hand.
Unknown Soldier: I assume he is calling any non A river.

Unknown Soldier · #9 10-21-2007, 09:33 AM

think it through more, it should be obvious.

hint: why are you so concerend about him making a mistake on the turn?

scallop · #10 10-21-2007, 09:38 AM

If he were to call any bet on the turn, but only call more money if he hit a King/9/spade then SURELY pushing turn is way better than checking.

Board: 8s 9h 3s 2c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 68.182% 68.18% 00.00% 30 0.00 { TdTh }
Hand 1: 31.818% 31.82% 00.00% 14 0.00 { Ks9s }

Getting 68% of a 200bb.

Or Check. 32% of the time we lose a small pot. 68% of the time we win a small pot.... is this right?

GUess it depends entirely on what villian would do on non spade/nine/king rivers...