defending vs squeeze: options, options..

[tozzy]

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lol im a moron. i thought you were being squeezed, not the coldcaller. if youd 3bet smallish here, id put you on air or a small PP. (55-99)

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4bet, and ok.

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oh yeah, 4bet, sry. would you ever coldcall a big pair or AK to induce a squeeze? i figure you would, does villain know this?

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who cares if he does

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well, then hell more than likely read it as weakness. this is esp. because we coldcalled and werent the original raiser.

[john kane]

in terms of showing strength:

shove > call and showing strength on flop > 4betting

as for which i'd do, i wouldn't call pf, but given you have, i'd probs shove for meta.

[Triumph36]

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lol im a moron. i thought you were being squeezed, not the coldcaller. if youd 3bet smallish here, id put you on air or a small PP. (55-99)

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4bet, and ok.

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oh yeah, 4bet, sry. would you ever coldcall a big pair or AK to induce a squeeze? i figure you would, does villain know this?

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who cares if he does

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because he will assume your hand is JJ/AQ or worse and play perfectly against that range.

[WizardAce]

calling pre seems for me the best option. but even folding is sure not wrong here. ATs is not so good against the range of a reraise as maybe some thinking.
if he has TT+, AK,AQ,AJ we are in very bad shape.

[jfish]

this thread is tilting me

[ahnuld]

Honestly this just seems like a math problem to me in regards to 4 bet call shove/fold debate. Figure out his repop range and then figure he will only push over the top with TT+ AK, AQs and see how that EV stacks up vs ATs.

Honestly all the choices you provided kinda suck, so I might just fold, and start coldcalling some big PPs to [censored] with him. He prob. wont adjust to your coldcall 4 bet range and will still give you credit for AT every once in awhile even if you never do it without JJ+ imo. People arent that good at poker.

[ipokeder]

you're thinking of calling a RERAISE

with ACE TEN???

WHAT???????!?

[tozzy]

why even ask if youre gonna disagree/get tilted when lots of posters (amongst them pretty well respected ones) advocate another line you and jones would take?

[jfish]

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why even ask if youre gonna disagree/get tilted when lots of posters (amongst them pretty well respected ones) advocate another line you and jones would take?

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youre right, it was just the tone of several responses. i agree with lefort, djsensei and others regarding this hand. i just think that a lot of the discussion is pretty irrelevant and more focused on "no matter what you do, any good player will outplay you" sort of thing.

but ya youre right.

[$upermad4it]

4 betting would be horrendous unless you love to call reraise on the button a lot with big pairs which i doubt you do.Best option is fold, failing that call.