600NLHUCASH idiot straight four straight board situation - Page 2

alavet · #11 10-19-2007, 12:14 AM

actually i dont think any hand got you called except K with good kicker, 2 pairs, flushdraw, 9, and A

most of the times he dont have a K and two pairs here, so you shouldnt bet full pot. personally i make it 1/2 or check

i like to value river

PerDoom · #12 10-19-2007, 04:41 AM

I really don't like betting there. An ace is a pretty big part of his range, and there are so few hands that you are going to get value from (QT, JT maybe if he plays flop like this which is in itself doubtful).

I'd rather just check and hope he turns whatever hand he has into a bluff.

And your thought process as to having an aggressive image somehow parlaying into you getting two streets of value is pretty damn ambiguous. Look at the board and think about what hands you could get value from.

Vinetou · #13 10-19-2007, 05:08 AM

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I really don't like betting there. An ace is a pretty big part of his range, and there are so few hands that you are going to get value from (QT, JT maybe if he plays flop like this which is in itself doubtful).

I'd rather just check and hope he turns whatever hand he has into a bluff.

And your thought process as to having an aggressive image somehow parlaying into you getting two streets of value is pretty damn ambiguous. Look at the board and think about what hands you could get value from.

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A lot of times I have such a LAG image that I get value out of top pair here. You don't know me. Solid villain calls me with trips on a four flush board and stuff like that. With an aggressive image, this is an easy value bet two streets. If he raises at any point, I just give up.

PerDoom · #14 10-19-2007, 05:14 AM

Yea but he has top pair here never given flop action

creedofhubris · #15 10-19-2007, 05:37 AM

I don't like the turn bet. If he has top pair or better by the turn, he would've bet the flop. He won't pay you with what he's got, but he might raise with a worse hand and push you off the winner.

= check

Vinetou · #16 10-19-2007, 05:57 AM

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I don't like the turn bet. If he has top pair or better by the turn, he would've bet the flop. He won't pay you with what he's got, but he might raise with a worse hand and push you off the winner.

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They check top pair on this flop against me when I have aggressive image because they think I am gonna bluff the turn plus they don't want to play a big pot and they are usually right. I agree with your reasoning that he might raise here and push me off a hand. It depends on villain. This hand is really a consideration of metagame. I am talking more about unknown villains here, what to do when you don't play a lot with the villain. You think anyone would raise unknown villain on this board if I make a turn bet?