AQs early in $50, probably beat

[Anna K.]

Pokerroom, $50 MTT, 3rd hand, 147 entrants, top20 paid

Hand T4-52041424-3, Started at 18-10-2007 13:02 (GMT+2)
Table 'Funafuti': 20-20 No Limit HE (TournamentChips)
Seat 0: Backas1 (1.480 in chips)
Seat 1: Bo_sHa (1.280 in chips)
Seat 2: stianjac1 (1.460 in chips)
Seat 3: LukeLasko1 (1.500 in chips)
Seat 4: RaymondKan (1.820 in chips)
Seat 5: titi34500 (1.500 in chips)
Seat 6: Anna K. (1.500 in chips)
Seat 7: muskoka man1 (1.500 in chips)
Seat 8: budil1 (1.490 in chips)
Seat 9: politox666 (1.470 in chips) (on the button)
*** Blind Bet Round *** :
Backas1 : Post Blind (10)
Bo_sHa : Post Blind (20)
Dealt to Anna K.: Ac
Dealt to Anna K.: Qc
*** Pre-Flop *** :
stianjac1 : Call (20)
LukeLasko1 : Fold
RaymondKan : Fold
titi34500 : Call (20)
Anna K. : Bet (100)
muskoka man1 : Fold
budil1 : Fold
politox666 : Call (100)
Backas1 : Call (90)
Bo_sHa : Fold
stianjac1 : Call (80)
titi34500 : Call (80)
*** Flop *** : Qh 6h 2c
Dealt to Anna K.: Ac
Dealt to Anna K.: Qc
Backas1 : Check
stianjac1 : Check
titi34500 : Check
Anna K. : Bet (325)
politox666 : Raise (650)
Backas1 : Fold
stianjac1 : Fold
titi34500 : Fold
Anna K. : ??

I figured i was probaly beat here against AA, KK or set 66 but it was one of the first hands and there are plenty of loco's around this early, even in a $50. I had no reads whatsoever, but the minraise is obviously scary in this situation. Is folding and playing with 1075 chips a realistic option? My EV against the range 25% AA, 25% KK, 25% KQ and 25% set (which I think is extremely narrow) is about zero, assuming this results in a heads-up all in. What about this range? Easy push or difficult fold? Was this c-bet ok?

[Rocco]

520 in pot, right? I'd bet a bit more (like 380) and never fold this against an unknown player. Sure, you might be up against a set or AA-KK, but I expect to see Qx or flush draws more often.

[CobraGoat]

what rocco said. i really doubt this is AA-KK its more like to be 66 or 22 but villain shows up with so much more here, all kinds of Qs, AX hearts etc. im getting in here pretty happily.

also PF if you are gonna raise i would mash the pot button, there are two limpers in and you are in MP so make it more like 120-30.

[DrewTheHead]

I definetly do not put villian on AA-KK. I think early in a tournament, from the botton, this guys calling range is big and will have a number of hands in it. Including AhXh,4h5h, KQ, 66, 22. Against an unknown early on I feel that a push is very necessary here.

22 and 66 u r looking to sign up for the next tournie but I feel a flush draw or a smaller Q is MUCH more likely.

[Anna K.]

What bothered me most was the minraise. An all in raise i would call instantly (indicating a flushdraw) but the minraise seems very unlikely for a FD for me. I really felt I was behind against AA/KK/66 here while KQ or AQ were the other realistic possibilities (acknowledging that there's always some small change for other weird psycho bluffs/plays)
I think I agree about the preflop raise though. 120/130 would have made reading the postflop situation easier

[Anna K.]

For completeness, I did indeed push and was called by AA and lost, obviously. Do you think there was any reasonable way to play this hand differently and not bust or was it just inevitable to bust here?

I think it was, especially after considering your replies, but i am curious if you guys have different views

[BarryLyndon]

If this is deepstacked, I call the flop and get it in on a non K or heart on the turn. At these stacks, easy push for reasons stated.

Barry

[Rocco]

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What bothered me most was the minraise. An all in raise i would call instantly (indicating a flushdraw) but the minraise seems very unlikely for a FD for me.

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One thing I've noticed lately is that people use the min-raise more frequently in order to push people off hands hoping they will suspect a monster. Yes, a flush draw would probably have pushed, but there are other combinations in Villain's range that you beat.

[AMT]

really easy shove. your hand is a cooler.

[brad2002tj]

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What bothered me most was the minraise. An all in raise i would call instantly (indicating a flushdraw) but the minraise seems very unlikely for a FD for me.

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One thing I've noticed lately is that people use the min-raise more frequently in order to push people off hands hoping they will suspect a monster. Yes, a flush draw would probably have pushed, but there are other combinations in Villain's range that you beat.

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I do this sometimes with air, especially when there are large blinds/antes and I a big stack. A cheap way of representing a big hand.