T9s, I 3-bet flush draw on paired board

[Halstad]

Villain is 23/13/2.5 - 400 hands
He and I have no history. Standard?

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $149.65
UTG+1: $238.58
CO: $71.75
Hero: $200
SB: $196
BB: $284.45

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($8.5, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $16</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $50</font>,

[theplux]

I doubt you've more than 9outs like ever here.

[MoP_86]

ya, but raise to 60

[scatt_man]

why not just call here ?? still getting 3-1

[MoP_86]

we don't have proper odds for a call... the idea here is that pot odds + fold equity = +EV

The more I look at it though.... i think this is a fold, at best i think we're drawing to our 9's and T's against a better flush draw or against 888

folding&gt; raising&gt; calling

[scatt_man]

if you do think your hearts are good though if you hit you only need to get another 10 dollars out of villain for implied odds to make your call on the flop correct

but ya i agree with MOP folding here is most likely better just because you have to discount outs here

[Halstad]

Isn't a fair amount of range air here?

[loosbastard]

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ya, but raise to 60

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Why? We're trying to fold out air right?

Edit: And FWIW, I really don't like this. W/ 100bb stacks it wouldn't be terrible...but what were you planning on doing if he shoved? If you really think he's C/R'ing air here (which you can't know because you have no history), then why not just call and take it away when he checks the turn?

[saal13]

Without a read / feel for the meaning behind his c/r I prefer a fold here given we are 200BB deep and making your hand could easily get you stacked.

[Fat Nicky]

not standard at all

you have position and you're facing a tiny raise w/no read on your opponent. just call. why are you assuming he has air?