AK Multi-Way, How Bad?

I_Hate_Winning · #1 10-17-2007, 02:49 PM

Called flop donk bet planning to reraise turn. Didn't expect a call. Comments on all streets appreciated.

PokerStars $0.05/$0.10 No-Limit Hold'em - 6 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $9.00
MP: $7.95
CO: $10.00
Hero: $18.75
SB: $5.20
BB: $19.20

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.30, CO calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.20, SB folds, BB calls $1.10, MP calls $0.90, CO calls $0.90.

Flop: ($4.85) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, MP bets $0.50, CO calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, BB calls $0.50.

Turn: ($6.85) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, MP bets $1, CO calls $1, Hero raises to $4, BB calls $4, MP folds, CO folds.

River: ($16.85) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $7, BB folds.

Final Pot: $16.85

Spurious · #2 10-17-2007, 02:54 PM

preflop is fine

flop is fine, too, you got the odds to draw.
turn is spew, why do you wanna take away a pot in that spot?
You are lucky BB was on a FD, otherwise your river bet would have been called by 22 imo.

1. mistake: dont steal pots 4way
2. mistake: bet more on the river and represent a hand

Logun · #3 10-17-2007, 03:02 PM

pf is good, flop is ok considering the bet and action.

on the turn though I feel you'll get looked up 100% by a queen and sometimes by 99 - JJ too.

river is ok given that there is a FD that did not get there, but you will get looked up often.

Milky · #4 10-17-2007, 03:07 PM

If villain is on FD there's no point betting river.

Also, if you're going to bluff the turn it needs to be a bigger raise. The FD isn't folding.

Plus, with so many in the hand I wouldn't even bother. You're likely to get called by someone, especially w/your raise size.

ICMoney · #5 10-18-2007, 02:05 PM

Don't post results beforehand or everone is like, "Autobet river, ldo."

I raise these donk leads like it's my job, but not four-handed, esp when there are reasonable TP, combo and FD hands out there. None of those are folding on the flop and will prob shove over you.

If I had to choose between raising flop or turn, I think you picked a better (but not good) spot. Draw equity tanks on that blank.

I expect to be behind on the river and just give up.
Even if I'm ahead of a missed draw, checking is still the play. You are not getting called by anything AK-.

ICMoney · #6 10-18-2007, 02:08 PM

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Also, if you're going to bluff the turn it needs to be a bigger raise. The FD isn't folding.

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Good point. I was so disgusted with raising turn that I didn't really even notice the bet size.

A PSR would be $10. I think you need to risk $7.5+ on the turn. Not worth it IMO.

Berky · #7 10-18-2007, 02:52 PM

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If villain is on FD there's no point betting river.

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I don't understand this? If you put him on a FD and it doesn't get there shouldn't you bet the river just incase he snagged a pair?
That's what i do.