TPTK facing river check raise....

[skeetm0n]

Villian in hand is 23/18 over ~100 hands and this is our first big pot vs one another. hes been playing pretty LAG. river value is slim, i know, but do i call here?


Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $198
BB: $404
UTG: $333.55
MP: $197
CO: $166.30
Hero (BTN): $425.40

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, CO raises to $7, <font color="red">Hero calls $7</font>, 2 folds

Flop: ($17) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q (2 Players)
CO bets $12, <font color="red">Hero calls $12</font>

Turn: ($41) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO bets $30, <font color="red">Hero calls $30</font>

River: ($101) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $40</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $117.30 and is All-In</font>

Hero....

[SnglMaltScotch]

I fold this fairly easily. SOOOOO many hands have you beat now.

SMS

[DaycareInferno]

yeah, that's not really a very attractive spot for him to bluff. i don't think its a very attractive spot for you to value bet either.

[Striker]

I would definitely raise either the flop or the turn for value, i think the turn might be better.

as played, its a definite fold on the river

[skeetm0n]

ok, ill confess.... i was actually the CO in this hand trying to see if my bluff was transparent or not, here is the real hand

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $198
BB: $404
UTG: $333.55
MP: $197
Hero (CO): $166.30
BTN: $425.40

Pre-Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, BTN calls $7, 2 folds

Flop: ($17) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $12</font>, BTN calls $12

Turn: ($41) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $30</font>, BTN calls $30

River: ($101) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $40</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $117.30 and is All-In</font>, BTN calls $77.30

Results: $335.60 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero showed 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 (King Queen high) and LOST (-$166.30 NET)
BTN showed K A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Kings) and WON $332.60 (+$166.30 NET)


thanks for giving me credit on my bluff

[AaronOC]

lol

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thanks for giving me credit on my bluff

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yea you cant really look at it this way, homie. everyone evaluated the hand as if "you" (who was really villain) held AK, but at the time you made your bluff you could only guess as to what his hand was. in fact now that i see the whole thing, i think you misplayed every single street except the flop.

villains range on the river is almost entirely comprised of two pair or better hands

[skeetm0n]

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thanks for giving me credit on my bluff

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yea you cant really look at it this way, homie. everyone evaluated the hand as if "you" (who was really villain) held AK, but at the time you made your bluff you could only guess as to what his hand was. in fact now that i see the whole thing, i think you misplayed every single street except the flop.

villains range on the river is almost entirely comprised of two pair or better hands

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does it make a difference if you have AK or 2pr here? if he calls with 2pr he should be calling w/ AK too. when i c/r'd him i just knew he didnt have a strait or a flush and was hoping he didnt have a set. i thought hed fold anything else

[ikestoys]

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thanks for giving me credit on my bluff

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why why why would you ever do this?

[skeetm0n]

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thanks for giving me credit on my bluff

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why why why would you ever do this?

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didnt think he had a flush / metagame