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Old 10-16-2007, 06:04 AM
Luckyz Luckyz is offline
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Default JJ, 3bet pot, easy or hard?

villian is 8+tabling, 23/18/4
he 3bets light, and he knows im tight
I think he is bluffing a decent amount of time here, anyone?
Blinds: $1/$2
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $12</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $35</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($77, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $46</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($169, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $122($22 left)</font>, Hero ???
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:17 AM
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Default Re: JJ, 3bet pot, easy or hard?

Folds, ur hand is no good here.
Villain has so many hands that have u beat, 57, 66, 44, qq, KK, AA, AdQ.
U are effectively betting 150 to win approx 300, villain needs to be bluffing 1/3 of the time to make this EV.
I just dont think u are ahead often enough.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:21 AM
lsaw2 lsaw2 is offline
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Default Re: JJ, 3bet pot, easy or hard?

We're behind to 57??!
With no history i'd fold it, if he really is multi tabling so much i'd maybe go for a flop MR, IF he plays back he HAS to have you beat and you can dump it; I cant think of much a multi -tabler would just call the MR with.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:22 AM
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Default Re: JJ, 3bet pot, easy or hard?

how about 4bet pre, either take down there or call shove?
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:25 AM
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Default Re: JJ, 3bet pot, easy or hard?

If we're calling a shove pre we're very probably behind or flipping with AK.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:52 AM
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Default Re: JJ, 3bet pot, easy or hard?

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We're behind to 57??!


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lol, my bad, misread hand.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:52 AM
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Default Re: JJ, 3bet pot, easy or hard?

When I called his flop bet I know he put me on TT+ or float
when flush got there, I think he would have check/raised all in with QQ/KK/AA. maybe he had AAd or AdKx
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:53 AM
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Default Re: JJ, 3bet pot, easy or hard?

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how about 4bet pre, either take down there or call shove?

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I 4bet his UTG raise once, and he insta shoved, and I folded.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:55 AM
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Default Re: JJ, 3bet pot, easy or hard?

also he knows I squeeze preflop light with multiple limpers
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:59 AM
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Default Re: JJ, 3bet pot, easy or hard?

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When I called his flop bet I know he put me on TT+ or float
when flush got there, I think he would have check/raised all in with QQ/KK/AA. maybe he had AAd or AdKx

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so ur praying he has AdKx, even if that is the case, he still has 15outs.
get this hand in the muck and wait for a better spot.
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