T9s kinda crappy spot

[DavidC]

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without a bdfd on the flop, I might be tempted to let this go.

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I used to think that this wasn't a huge deal, but in marginal spots like these, bdfs are actually really good.

[sir.Oliver]

I would have 3-bet the flop and call a cap.
After a flop-cap there is no way to stay in this hand (after all, he could have a nut-flushdraw too, but...). If MP just calls the 3-bet you should donk the turn, and the river as long as the board doesnt shows a flush.

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btw. what does bdfd and bdfs means? (newbie)

[Xylocain]

bdfd Back Door Flush Draw (3 cards to a flush)
bdsd(?) Back Door Straight Draw (3 cards to a straight)

I think I fold pf without some spew reads and I do fold flop. We are likely outkicked or just pwned by some random holding including a UTGs PP. In addition to that, a FD will eat another 33% or so of our equity (+ the FD usually have OC outs.)

God Im weak tight.

[DeucesNeverLoses]

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yeah folding preflop is good too btw

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lol, nits, there's no way you can fold this preflop if you've posted $1, unless it's HU (I still call there a lot), you have to call. After flop bet/raise spot you're either a small favorite, or way behind. I muck this flop a lot unless you have reads like MP is a psycho and will do this w/ a gutshot off the flop, etc...

[KitCloudkicker]

didnt read many responses but

folding pf is quite bad (pot odds mean anything? did you guys also notice it was 5 handed?). if you play nitpoker and fold here with T9s 5 handed you are donating.

calling flop is a little bit bad (5 or less outs, not great odds, not closing the action vs pfr, etc).

my 2c.

[DavidC]

It's kinda interesting that no one here suggested c/f river.


P.S. OMG Tailspin! I used to love that show!

[Niediam]

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It's kinda interesting that no one here suggested c/f river.

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I don't think folding is a good option since you under represented the strength of your hand.

[Mitke]

What does Hero's play look like to you, from MP's view? FD(+gutshot and/or + over card(s)?), 77-99, weak T would my guess.

That's just about the same range I'd actually put the MP on, with maybe a stronger T being more and straight draws less likely because he cold-called preflop.

On the flop he's getting a chance to A) shut Hero out of the pot (with a weak made hand?) + maybe get UTG to fold his possible overs, B) raising for a free card with a draw (FD and/or some SD and/or overcard(s)), C) getting info about UTG's strength.

IMO this merits at least the call-down. Hero's play on the flop looks like a draw. But I'd like to see that raise somewhere.

[maverickai]

I'd fold the flop, facing the raise. The pot is laying me 9:2, and MP seems to represent TJs+. Likely hood of AT or KT. Your kicker is definitely beaten by the range of MP. JJ-AA is probably out, cos MP didn't re-raise preflop. very slim chance of AK.