NL2: 2 hands Line check, 2 pair

[Nicechase]

This is my first post here, but I've been lurking for a few weeks. I have trouble playing two pair most of the time and want to see how you guys play tougher situations. Appreciate the feedback.

Hand 1: Villain is pretty loose, 57/7 over 60 hands. He has called down large bets with just middle pair.

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 7 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $2.28
BB: $4.87
UTG: $6.86
UTG+1: $3.30
MP: $5.30
CO: $5
Hero (BTN): $2.16

CO posts $0.02
Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.02, MP folds, CO checks, Hero calls $0.02, SB calls $0.01, BB checks

Flop: ($0.10) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG+1 bets $0.04</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.20</font>, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.16

Turn: ($0.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG+1 bets $0.10</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.30</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.20

River: ($1.10) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG+1 bets $0.20</font>, Hero calls $0.20

Hand 2: Villain is 43/13 over 75 hands. No real reads.

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP2: $4.11
CO: $5.10
BTN: $2.57
SB: $0.98
BB: $1.69
Hero (UTG): $1.94
UTG+1: $3.74
UTG+2: $7.05
MP1: $1.23

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $0.10</font>, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.10, SB folds, BB calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.51) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $0.16</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $0.16, 2 folds

Turn: ($0.83) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.20</font>, MP1 calls $0.20

River: ($1.23) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.20</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises to $0.66</font>, Hero calls $0.46

[WCGRider]

Hand 1, standard up until turn. you need to raise this to at least 60ish, maybe a bit more. River when he donks i guess i just call because everything got in.

Hand 2, Bet more on the flop. 40ish is prob good. But the problem is with so many opponents the probability of a T is likely. After a good flop bet im prob c/f to further aggression. Dont bet so small on the turn, and river c/f.

[Nicechase]

Thanks for the input. I've done fairly well playing FR 2NL, turning $3.00 into $100.22 (current count) in about 1.5 months. Most of my losses come from 2-pair hands. I have no problem betting strong when I have a set or higher, but I try to keep the pots smaller with 2 pair because it seems that I get drawn out on (or allow myself to get drawn out on) frequently.

Again, thank you.

[CaptVimes]

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Thanks for the input. I've done fairly well playing FR 2NL, turning $3.00 into $100.22 (current count) in about 1.5 months. Most of my losses come from 2-pair hands. I have no problem betting strong when I have a set or higher, but I try to keep the pots smaller with 2 pair because it seems that I get drawn out on (or allow myself to get drawn out on) frequently.

Again, thank you.

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This is backwards thinking. Two pair is a strong hand, but is vulnerable to other draws and only has 4 outs to improve. For this reason you are not only betting for value but for protection. Keeping the pot small does you no good if you allow your villains to draw cheap.

In the first hand, for example, villain bets .10 in to a .50 pot on the turn. You raised to .30. Villain is now getting 4.5to1 + implied odds to call and draw to his flush or straight. These odds are exactly right if he has 8 or 9 outs. Villains are going to call with draws a lot so you want them calling with incorrect odds. You want them making mistakes, and mini-raises don't get the job done.

[Nicechase]

Yeah, that's what I meant about allowing myself to be drawn out on. It just seems to me that I very rarely get draws to fold at NL2, so I tighten up to the point of being very weak, which is a major leak for me.

I played this hand recently, is the line better?

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 7 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $0.53
BB: $5.61
Hero (UTG): $1.94
UTG+1: $2.06
MP: $3.75
CO: $2.59
BTN: $2.25

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $0.08</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.08, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.08, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.27) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.22</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.22, BTN folds

Turn: ($0.71) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.60</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.60

River: ($1.91) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks

[CaptVimes]

Yeah better flop and turn. Being OOp on that river sucks though. NH. KQ?

[Nicechase]

Thanks. He called me down with KJo.