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Old 10-15-2007, 06:13 PM
Loxodonta Loxodonta is offline
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Default 20.2 JJ on bubble, tool to calculate ICM tournament equity?

7 handed, top 6 get paid:

1st $342
2nd $225
3rd $144
4th $90
5th $54
6th $45

Seat 1: ITS-ALL-ME-JR (3,120)
Seat 2: kruttroyk (12,306)
Seat 4: strangor (6,610)
Seat 5: Doyle47 (12,917)
Seat 6: Loxodonta (11,300)
Seat 7: Nilli Vanilli (11,880)
Seat 8: shawndelc (9,367)
Loxodonta posts the small blind of 200
Nilli Vanilli posts the big blind of 400

It folds around to Doyle47 on the button who puts in a standard raise to 1,200. I have JJ in the small blind and I make a weak/passive play of flat calling, trying not to tangle with the other big stacks without a substantial edge. My idea is to check-raise a safe flop to win a medium pot. Meanwhile, Nilli Vanilli, who is known to be LAG, moves all in and Doyle47 folds. I know the algorithm for calculating my ICM tournament equity, but with 7 players remaining that is 7 factorial or 5,040 possible outcomes. I downloaded SNG Wizard and when it replayed this hand it suggested pushing my JJ (as opposed to folding I guess), which probably would have picked up the chips on the table and saved me this tricky decision, but I could not figure out how to get it to tell me my tournament equities of folding vs. winning this giant pot. Against {A8+, 88-QQ} (I expect a standard reraise with KK+) JJ has 65% pre-flop chip equity so if not on the bubble I would insta-call with fist-pump. Any advice on tools/methodology? BTW, hand results in white below:
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Loxodonta calls 10,100, and is all in
Nilli Vanilli shows [As 8h]
Loxodonta shows [Jh Js]
Uncalled bet of 580 returned to Nilli Vanilli
*** FLOP *** [7d Kc Ac]
*** TURN *** [7d Kc Ac] [7c]
*** RIVER *** [7d Kc Ac 7c] [8d]
Loxodonta: nice catch
Nilli Vanilli shows two pair, Aces and Eights
Loxodonta shows two pair, Jacks and Sevens
Nilli Vanilli wins the pot (23,800) with two pair, Aces and Eights
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Old 10-15-2007, 09:05 PM
Dunkman Dunkman is offline
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Default Re: 20.2 JJ on bubble, tool to calculate ICM tournament equity?

The SNG guys have a lot of tools for the ICM stuff. What you need to be worrying about more than ICM calculations is why on earth you didn't repop with JJ here, which is a terrible play. Just learn to play, play to win, then if you want to alter strategy somewhat for $EV as opposed to cEV that's fine, but by this hand, and your explanation, not meaning to sound bad, but your missing the boat, and I'd just worry about trying to play some solid poker.
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Old 10-15-2007, 09:15 PM
tomek322 tomek322 is offline
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Default Re: 20.2 JJ on bubble, tool to calculate ICM tournament equity?

ezy call.. he could be squeezing a wiiide range on the bubble.
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