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Old 10-14-2007, 02:26 PM
nigul nigul is offline
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Default Scary turn

In one of the previous hands villain called check-raise on turn with flush draw and no correct odds. Is it wise to assume him hitting straight in this hand and not bet out here:

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $16.60
UTG+1: $10.30
CO: $26.35
Button: $2.15
Hero: $7.25
BB: $3.45

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $0.2</font>, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1, 5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $0.6</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2.8</font>, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($6.6, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero is all-in $4.25</font>, UTG calls.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($15.1, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $15.1)


Results:
Final pot: $15.1
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Old 10-14-2007, 02:43 PM
gordo16 gordo16 is offline
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Default Re: Scary turn

I mean, it's the only reasonable draw that he would bet out and call a raise with on the flop.
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Old 10-14-2007, 02:57 PM
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Yes, I know, but what if he has JT instead of QJ. Also, the pot is already bigger than my stack. So do you think it's fold 100% of time or less?
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Old 10-14-2007, 03:04 PM
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It's clearly significantly less than 100%. I haven't played that low but I would assume that you're actually good in this spot a suprising amount of the time, perhaps up against some stubborn AT or something. Idunno, if properly rolled for the game, I would probably make this call more than I fold given the stack sizes.
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Old 10-14-2007, 04:07 PM
thisnamedoesntfi thisnamedoesntfi is offline
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Usually I don't push all in on a scare card. Maybe check and see what villain does, then make a decision. Players at this level will often check behind to disguise their now nut hand, as bad as that is, I have seen it often enough.

If he puts you all in, I think you can lay down two pair, but I would felt a set.
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:43 AM
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I think he would never check down the turn here when hitting str8. For psychological reasons it's even worse to make a check-call here and get beaten. Don't know if I was pot commited enough to make this move on turn or should I've moved in on river in case he'd checked behind here. Anyway it seems I cannot manage situations like this correctly most of the time.
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Old 10-15-2007, 05:31 AM
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definitely shove. he could have the lower wrap, lower 2 pair, missed gutshot, other stupid stuff.
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Old 10-15-2007, 07:47 AM
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id either lead go for a 3 bet or check call here
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:48 PM
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[x] pot commited
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