Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > Other Topics > Science, Math, and Philosophy
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #22  
Old 10-14-2007, 09:08 PM
madnak madnak is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Brooklyn (Red Hook)
Posts: 5,271
Default Re: Al Gore Wins Nobel Peace Prize

[ QUOTE ]
The argument is invalid. just because progress is cumulative it doesn't follow that one step back for us means people in the future will be one step back.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is true only if the one step back somehow results in multiple subsequent steps forward. That is, if the net effect is positive.

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
And look at our own history - the black death, who knows. But the end of the ice age led to the development of civilization - its effects define each of our lives. The Roman Empire set the cultural underpinnings that we live with to this day. The establishment of religions, the wars through the world, the literature and philosophy, these are the ingredients that make the present what it is. I think it's reasonable to suggest that what we do today will similarly affect the future.


[/ QUOTE ]
I agree.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'd appreciate some clarification: This seems to contradict the position I thought you were defending (that actions taken in the present have minimal impact on the far future).

[ QUOTE ]
Set us back decades in what respect. we're not going to lose technology so you must mean the technology we would have advanced if climate change hadn't happened. That goes back to your invalid cumulative argument. My contention is the stimulous to new technologies will rapidly outweigh a few years lost advances - I can't prove that would be the case so we may just have to disagree.


[/ QUOTE ]

Your statement that the stimulus to new technologies would outweigh years of lost advances is a big one, and you still haven't explained where this stimulus would come from, or why a disaster would be necessary to create it.

Maybe we will just have to disagree.
Reply With Quote
 


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.