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Old 10-14-2007, 08:13 PM
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Default Re: nl 100, KK facing 4bet shove pre.

approaching 300 posts and asking this question...FOLD & QUIT.
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Old 10-14-2007, 08:18 PM
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Default Re: nl 100, KK facing 4bet shove pre.

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OP, if you want to start folding KK for just over 100bb's preflop thats your business, but it will pretty much never be correct to do so, that much i can assure you of.

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It there's a 4-bet AI before you have acted this can be defensible.

Like if UTG opens, UTG+1 3-bets, and SB shoves, and there's no history, and both UTG's are reasonably tight and SB isn't too aggro, I could dump KK in the BB.

But if the 4-bet is after you 3-bet, then no, folding for 100BBs is way beyond retarded.
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Old 10-14-2007, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: nl 100, KK facing 4bet shove pre.

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I'd fold. I mean, do you really expect him to be shoving anything that we beat?

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level?
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Old 10-14-2007, 08:28 PM
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Default Re: nl 100, KK facing 4bet shove pre.

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I'd fold. I mean, do you really expect him to be shoving anything that we beat?

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level?

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No, this is a level:



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Old 10-14-2007, 11:05 PM
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Default Re: nl 100, KK facing 4bet shove pre.

I say you should felt this and most of the time you will be ahead preflop. Most is not all times, however in the last week i have been up against 99-QQ AQ-AK, so as you can easily see you will be ahead for the most part by doing this and sometimes it will be aces. Fitness freak is a very good player and coach id listen to what he says.
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Old 10-14-2007, 11:38 PM
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Default Re: nl 100, KK facing 4bet shove pre.

in the card game unlimited texas hold'em poker this would be an instant call
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Old 10-14-2007, 11:46 PM
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Default Re: nl 100, KK facing 4bet shove pre.

oh god...instacall
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Old 10-14-2007, 11:54 PM
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Default Re: nl 100, KK facing 4bet shove pre.

Flat call, re-evaluate on flop
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Old 10-14-2007, 11:58 PM
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Default Re: nl 100, KK facing 4bet shove pre.

why do I even open these threads up anymore?
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Old 10-15-2007, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: nl 100, KK facing 4bet shove pre.

so silly.
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