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Old 10-14-2007, 08:20 AM
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Default FTP 6500 gtd-- touch decision with JJ late in the tourney

18 players left, when I pick up jacks. No real reads on the table as I had just gotten moved.

Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 600/1,200 Blinds, 150 Ante, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: 10,643
Hero (SB): 21,130
BB: 63,906
UTG: 41,839
UTG+1: 11,265
UTG+2: 10,446
MP1: 67,304
MP2: 55,818
CO: 16,010

Pre-Flop: (3,150) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, <font color="red">UTG+2 raises to 4,800</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to 10,493 and is All-In</font>, <font color="red">Hero ???</font>
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Old 10-14-2007, 08:45 AM
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Default Re: FTP 6500 gtd-- touch decision with JJ late in the tourney

Unless you're looking to gamble, I'd fold this maybe half the time. The only plus is that you will have about 8 BBs if you push and lose. UTG+2's preflop raise of half his stack is something to thing about, as he's not folding now, and button could easily be calling with any pair or face cards.
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Old 10-14-2007, 08:56 AM
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Default Re: FTP 6500 gtd-- touch decision with JJ late in the tourney

I think I stick it in... usually you're up against three overs combined, or two overs and an underpair. If you win you have a sick stack. If you lose you have 9BB and can still play.

I never really respect the 4x raise this late.
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Old 10-14-2007, 09:08 AM
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Default Re: FTP 6500 gtd-- touch decision with JJ late in the tourney

i get this in every time you got to take risks to win.
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Old 10-14-2007, 02:34 PM
Chimp__greg Chimp__greg is offline
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Default Re: FTP 6500 gtd-- touch decision with JJ late in the tourney

Yeah, both these guys have Ms of like 3.5 and are super desperate, so you have to push here.
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Old 10-14-2007, 03:00 PM
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Default Re: FTP 6500 gtd-- touch decision with JJ late in the tourney

this is an easy push with the stack-sizes given - and there are many times when you find both villains interfere with a high ace - and as tomek said you have them covered.
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Old 10-14-2007, 03:12 PM
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Default Re: FTP 6500 gtd-- touch decision with JJ late in the tourney

Easy push. You aren't really that deep yourself, and winning this locks probably top 6.

I'm slightly scared of him raising half his stack, but even if you lose You still have chips. Late tourney I see that kind of half stack raising with all kinds of hands, unlike early tourney.

ps Stick it in, hope for the best. By the way, I'm pushing TT and folding 99. I'm also pushing AK, but I'm not sure about AQ (I think I can fold AQ and AQs here).

pps Button probably has AK at best here, maybe maybe QQ but I doubt it. I think AA/KK flat call there. He's trying to isolate.
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Old 10-14-2007, 03:18 PM
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id get it in because reasons stated by Dave.
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Old 10-14-2007, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: FTP 6500 gtd-- touch decision with JJ late in the tourney

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Easy push. You aren't really that deep yourself, and winning this locks probably top 6.

I'm slightly scared of him raising half his stack, but even if you lose You still have chips. Late tourney I see that kind of half stack raising with all kinds of hands, unlike early tourney.

ps Stick it in, hope for the best. By the way, I'm pushing TT and folding 99. I'm also pushing AK, but I'm not sure about AQ (I think I can fold AQ and AQs here).

pps Button probably has AK at best here, maybe maybe QQ but I doubt it. I think AA/KK flat call there. He's trying to isolate.

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This was pretty much my exact line of thought. I really thought there was good odds he was isolating here with 88-1010 or AK AQ. In the end, the fact that I would still have a workable stack in the event that I lost made it a pretty easy call for me.

Unfortunately, he flipped up KK and the initial raiser flipped up 22. Obv 22 got there on the river and ended up getting pulling off 3rd after this massive triple up.
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