Big pot OOP deep

[thac]

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- If we blank on the turn and he calls our shove, we're still around 21% equity to complete our hand and if we hit, we win a $310 pot and we get all the action we could ever want from villain in future pots.


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But only with 50$ effective stacks.

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I have a feeling you'll get deeper stacks eventually with a tight solid kinda regular (I guess he's a reg?)

[corsakh]

Thanks for all the advice guys, very much appreciated and very nice read. We definitely need more threads like this in deep spots.

There are some things perhaps I did not mention in the OP.

First, I am ahead of fishies range. He calls with a naked ace.

Second, I think there is a pretty good chance that BB is folding KK and AA to too much heat from me being this deep. But I am not sure if a single c/r going to do the job. He is probably going to call and reevaluate the turn. Which is a very tricky spot for me.

Third. He is going to have a very hard time putting me on a set since I did not raise preflop. I am very concerned that he may put me on JT or a 7 and push the flop.

Fourth. I thought the board is so scary from villains perspective and we are so deep that he is going to go for pot control on the turn no matter what card hits. This way I am buying two cards for the price of half a pot bet. I question our implied odds however, but he probably still calls a pot with QQ+ no matter if my straight hits because he knows I can be aggressive. I would not go for half a pot since it looks like a blatant value bet in my position.

[hennnerz]

What if he 3bets us on this flop? AI or whatever?

[corsakh]

We have almost 40% equity.

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*grunching*

I prefer a call, and a c/r(ai) on just about any turn.

I think we will have massive fold equity vs. his range. Not to mention he probably wont pay us off if we hit our straight.

Doing the stack-a-donk line vs. this regular represent a lot of strength. Villain has to put you on 2pair or a set. I doubt he will ever call you. Now you are HU with the fish and able to go to showdown, while taking down a nice sidepot. Even if you lose the mainpot, the sidepot will probably net you some profit.

Im a bit hungover, so I cant do the math right now, but this seems correct

[icheckcallu]

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Villain is sickmyduck on ipoker. Hes all right. 18/12/3, pretty solid. Positionally aware. Little weak. Straightforward. He called my 3bets a few times, I suspect JJ and AK types of hands. Does not get out of line. I run good at 19/17 and do not get out of line either - plenty of fish at the table.

iPoker
6 handed
50NL

CO $10
Hero in SB $150
Villain in BB $150

Anyway. Fold, fold. Fishy limps. I complete with 77 (was busy on other tables), Viallin raises to $2.5.

Ok, he is tight in the blinds. Very tight. I think 88 is the worst hand he raises here. I dont think he raise AJ. Maybe AQ, but I dont know. He seems to avoid pots with me recently and does not seem to be willing to play big pots even though he has position. Definetly not a steal, I think its safe to put him on a big hand here, TT+, AK type.

Fish calls. I call.

I dont want to be 3betting OOP after I completed either [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Flop comes 689r.
Ok. Whats the plan [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Hero checks. Villain pots. Fish call all in (he had pot bet left).

I am positive he has a big pair. Pot is $23. $7.5 to call.

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check raise flop... if he calls he has big pair. are u willing to shove turn with a draw??

[icheckcallu]

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This advice comes from the MSNL'er I am currently sitting next to.

You should raise this flop because you are deep and he has to fold most of his betting range (overpairs etc) to your raise. All the decisions are close in EV (raise call fold) but raising gives you the best chance to take it down.

If you were 100bb deep this would NOT be a good idea but theres almost no way that this guy is going to call you off with an overpair so deep.

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You can close this thread now, because this is the correct answer.

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Not so fast this is the MICROS not msnl and most villains(absent a read) are not capable of folding an overpair..While I do like the advice, at the micros it's is very villain dependant...

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i think villain is capable of folding an overpair with those stats