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Old 10-13-2007, 02:36 PM
Barrin6 Barrin6 is offline
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Omg, I was just about to go get a haircut until I read this

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How below expectation is this?

I gotta go get a haircut,bbl.

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Should I still go or will I get doomswitched?
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Old 10-13-2007, 02:45 PM
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Old 10-13-2007, 02:52 PM
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well there is - they just pay you it in Porsches.. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-13-2007, 02:52 PM
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Wunderking: he has pair + draw or something like A9 like 90% of the time. He has a weak king maybe ten % of the time, often he will reraise on the flop because he think a king is best versus a fishy

All want a cheap showdown when just calling the turn. Villain may have gotten there on river, but its very unlikely FGators has spades due to his passive play on the flop (he will generally bomb it with a good flush draw on this flop).

I am liable to bomb the turn against this particular opponent, as the check minraise and the weak lead on turn, with the right PT stats, can generally be a draw trying to reverse-set odds in, ie not have to check call 60 so lets bet 24 to see a river and maybe take it away if i miss. its either that or a junky two pair, and if he has that, well, hey we have trips and straight draws!

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Pleaase Clayton, accept it. For better or worse, he played it good. You are better than him, but you don't have to prove that by degrading him. Remember how he plays the nut flush draws so passively and folds if he doesn't hit. He is trying to learn (may be) and this hand was any thing but face up.
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Old 10-13-2007, 02:55 PM
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I'm fairly sure Fgators will never win with people criticizing his play whether it was good or bad.
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Old 10-13-2007, 02:59 PM
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linuxrocks -

Obviously you haven't beaten your head against a wall a dozen times over in SSNL trying to give Fgators advice. Many very good players tried over and over and over to help him, and he refused it in denial time and again. If you knew more of that frustration, you'd be pointing and laughing with the rest of us, because the fact of the matter is fgators DESERVES THE HUMILIATION.

Clayton -

I will say though now is really the time for lolololololol and not so much the time for hand analysis. I still [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] your SSNL fgators theory post.
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Old 10-13-2007, 03:13 PM
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Ummmmmm, he's running TERRIBLE.

60 buyins more down than he should

Still break-even but hey.

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No he's not.
He's running 0.2 BB/100 under expected only, it's really close actually.
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Old 10-13-2007, 03:17 PM
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I don't get how this works...I honestly am sucked out on a 250:1 ratio..in fact I can't remember the last time I coolered someone or got it in drawing to two outs and won yet it happens to me a large portion of the time so I don't know how this graph works. I've got a Word document with about $400k worth of total bad beats and I've probably only sucked out on people in about 5k worth of pots lifetime so thats how I do my pokerv graphs.

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You've gotten extremely lucky versus me before. Just one of about 10 examples. You are up a ton on me.

POKERSTARS GAME #10673363031: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($2/$4) - 2007/06/29 - 00:07:46 (ET)
Table 'Regina V' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: FGators26 ($390 in chips)
Seat 2: wpr101 ($1060.25 in chips)
Seat 3: Unsyatisfied ($432.30 in chips)
Seat 4: bluffblocker ($400 in chips)
Seat 5: aghosh ($374.50 in chips)
Seat 6: rolonrolon ($593.85 in chips)
FGators26: posts small blind $2
wpr101: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to wpr101 [Js Jc]
Unsyatisfied: folds
bluffblocker: folds
aghosh: folds
rolonrolon: folds
FGators26: raises $12 to $16
wpr101: calls $12
*** FLOP *** [Qs Jd 9h]
FGators26: bets $24
wpr101: raises $48 to $72
FGators26: calls $48
*** TURN *** [Qs Jd 9h] [6c]
FGators26: checks
wpr101: bets $145
FGators26: raises $157 to $302 and is all-in
wpr101: calls $157
*** RIVER *** [Qs Jd 9h 6c] [2d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FGators26: shows [Ts Kh] (a straight, Nine to King)
wpr101: mucks hand
FGators26 collected $777 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $780 | Rake $3
Board [Qs Jd 9h 6c 2d]
Seat 1: FGators26 (small blind) showed [Ts Kh] and won ($777) with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 2: wpr101 (big blind) mucked [Js Jc]
Seat 3: Unsyatisfied folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: bluffblocker folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: aghosh folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: rolonrolon (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 10-13-2007, 03:19 PM
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Wunderking: he has pair + draw or something like A9 like 90% of the time. He has a weak king maybe ten % of the time, often he will reraise on the flop because he think a king is best versus a fishy

All want a cheap showdown when just calling the turn. Villain may have gotten there on river, but its very unlikely FGators has spades due to his passive play on the flop (he will generally bomb it with a good flush draw on this flop).

I am liable to bomb the turn against this particular opponent, as the check minraise and the weak lead on turn, with the right PT stats, can generally be a draw trying to reverse-set odds in, ie not have to check call 60 so lets bet 24 to see a river and maybe take it away if i miss. its either that or a junky two pair, and if he has that, well, hey we have trips and straight draws!

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Pleaase Clayton, accept it. For better or worse, he played it good. this hand was any thing but face up.

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I've logged quite a few hands vs both gators and roux and this hand is fine.
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Old 10-13-2007, 03:23 PM
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karpinski?
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