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Old 10-13-2007, 02:52 PM
chucky chucky is offline
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Default Re: Big 3-handed pot in micro limits

I would call in BB with this hand preflop. You are in horrible situation with 25% of stack in. With Aces you dont want more than 10% or less that 35% of your stack in preflop unless they are strong aces and you get a wide variety of hands in with that range.
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Old 10-13-2007, 06:06 PM
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Default Re: Big 3-handed pot in micro limits

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I would call in BB with this hand preflop. You are in horrible situation with 25% of stack in. With Aces you dont want more than 10% or less that 35% of your stack in preflop unless they are strong aces and you get a wide variety of hands in with that range.

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Before you 4-bet preflop ask yourself, what do you want to accomplish with your raise? You should have known you would be in an awkward situation postflop with AAXX.

While it is true that the OP is in an awkward situation, it is not THAT bad to 4-bet preflop in this situation. The pot is $15, the SB has only ~$5 left and you have about one pot sized bet left.

As played, I am inclined to bet pot on the flop to make the draws pay. You may be behind, but you still probably have a lot of equity. If UTG is a decent player, he may not call with a flush draw since he won't have the nut draw.

Just calling the 3-bet preflop is also fine. If you just call the 3-bet, maybe UTG will 4 bet and you can come over the top. You can also check raise an A or a wheel on the flop.

Chucky, would you 4-bet with AAXX on the button with similar stacks?
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Old 10-13-2007, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: Big 3-handed pot in micro limits

Its ok from button. With unsuited Aces you probably do not want make the pot large even with position. If you did raise this hand on the button and the flop we saw came out, I would probably check behind on flop and do a bare ace bluff on turn if I thought it would ever fold a weak flush.
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Old 10-13-2007, 07:16 PM
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Its ok from button. With unsuited Aces you probably do not want make the pot large even with position. If you did raise this hand on the button and the flop we saw came out, I would probably check behind on flop and do a bare ace bluff on turn if I thought it would ever fold a weak flush.

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This type of situation is one of the most difficult situations in PLO IMO. I'm trying to figure out how to play such hands optimally (so I'm not criticizing here).

Aren't you worried about a QJXX hand or flush draw getting a free card? It seems to me that if you can get enough money in the pot preflop with AAXX that you will have about one pot sized bet on the flop, then reraise it up. The only time I wouldn't pot bet that flop in this situation is if the flop is JT9, 3-flush, or something similar.

I would guess that an AAXX hand has enough equity to pot it on the flop in this situation. A low flush draw, gutshot or one pair may fold because of your aggression but would have improved if you checked.

Once again, I'm potting the flop here because I have about a pot sized bet left on the flop.
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Old 10-13-2007, 08:46 PM
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Default Re: Big 3-handed pot in micro limits

Its ok, but in a raised pot weak flush draws wont assume you have nut flush draw so I would expect lots of wraps with fds to call your flop bet. If it was checked through on the turn, it would signal that no one has a hand. I hate 4-betting weak aces.
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Old 10-14-2007, 03:48 AM
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Default Re: Big 3-handed pot in micro limits

It's good, now go all in.
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Old 10-14-2007, 07:04 AM
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Default Re: Big 3-handed pot in micro limits

I know it was a bad play to make that raise preflop. By not doing it I would have probably check-folded the flop and skipped to the next hand, but it was not how it went down. Both players were totally unknown to me, but somehow I wasn't scared of SB check raising here, because in that kind of big pot I think he must have bet right away even with low flush draw. What the other player had was a bigger problem to me and I thought that check would lead to pot bet by him quite certainly. So I bet the pot and got raised. The willain showed pocket nines so there was no hope for me.


Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($15.95, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $15.95</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in $17.1</font>, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($50.15, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $50.15)


River: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($50.15, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $50.15)


Results:
Final pot: $50.15
Hero showed Ah 3c Ad 5s
UTG showed Qs 9s 9c Qh
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