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Old 10-13-2007, 12:28 AM
AFennewald AFennewald is offline
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Default 200nl tp KJ in a reraised pot hits tp raising river all in

villian is 19/17/4 over about 1200 hands. He three bets me pretty often and vice versa.

When he checks the flop and bets the turn I was knda confused. JJ or QQ make sense. I would expect AJ and AQ to be cebet most of the time. On the river doesn't look like I beat much but jj turned into a bluff. Anybody call here. How is my flop check?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($240.50)
BB ($203)
UTG ($43.80)
Hero ($265.95)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $3.
UTG (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $33</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls $23.

Flop: ($70) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($70) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $44</font>, Hero calls $44.

River: ($158) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $126 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $32
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Old 10-13-2007, 12:30 AM
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Default Re: 200nl tp KJ in a reraised pot hits tp raising river all in

I hate preflop.. postflop seems okay I guess.. but preflop is bad IMO.
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Old 10-13-2007, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: 200nl tp KJ in a reraised pot hits tp raising river all in

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I hate preflop.. postflop seems okay I guess.. but preflop is bad IMO.

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Yeah my standard has been to fold these types of hands. However against players that 3 bet all the time I've been experimenting with calling them and bluff pushing some flops.
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Old 10-13-2007, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: 200nl tp KJ in a reraised pot hits tp raising river all in

Yeah, I don't like it with KJs though.. 98s or something smaller that won't put you in [censored] spots when you flop a pair.. I mean, is he really firing with AQ on the turn here? Quads or air IMO. I mean, maybe KK, but I don't know what hand he plays like this that's beating you.
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:11 AM
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Default Re: 200nl tp KJ in a reraised pot hits tp raising river all in

If youre opponent really is 3betting too much calling with KJs is better than calling with 98s, because you will flop top pair and be able to felt it more often, when he has 67s, 10J, 109s, 89s, 44, 55, etc. IMO, 19/17 is NOT 3 betting too often, and KJs doesnt do so well because he is 3betting with 88+ and KQ+.
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:15 AM
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If youre opponent really is 3betting too much calling with KJs is better than calling with 98s, because you will flop top pair and be able to felt it more often, when he has 67s, 10J, 109s, 89s, 44, 55, etc. IMO, 19/17 is NOT 3 betting too often, and KJs doesnt do so well because he is 3betting with 88+ and KQ+.

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From my memory of the vilian he has a pretty wide range unless he has just been running really well against me.
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