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Old 10-12-2007, 01:28 PM
Sherman Sherman is offline
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Default Re: $10/45 on Stars two hands.

Hand 1 sucks, but it is probably a fold.

Hand 2, you have to shove it on the flop. Folding would be criminal. You put in 1/4th of your stack PF. He made a c-bet on a flop that may or may not have connected with him. You could reasonably expect his entire range to c-bet this flop. You are way too priced in against his range on the flop not to shove.

Edit: BTW, Shove hand 2 PF. He made a 2.5xBB raise, you have 10BBs and are against one opponent. There are times in a tournament where I am dealt a starting hand that is fairly strong where I know before it even gets to me that I am shoving (almost) no matter what. This is one of those times.

Now if he raised and someone else re-raised, we'd have an easy fold. But against a single standard raise, we have a shove.
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Old 10-12-2007, 01:33 PM
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Default Re: $10/45 on Stars two hands.

ssnyc,

100 = SB
200 = BB
500 = MP1's raise
500 = Our call.

1300 in the pot going to the flop. We have 1600 left.

MP1 bets 800 into the 1300.

We have to call 800 in a 2100 pot or shove for 1600. Villain will have a trivially easy call of our shove with almost ATC (calling 800 to win 3700).
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:17 PM
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Default Re: $10/45 on Stars two hands.

wow...i know why i was confused...i meant odds for shoving preflop...took me some advanced brainpower to figure out why we were out of synch...flop is a different animal...I think he has good FE on a preflop shove here
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: $10/45 on Stars two hands.

Hand 1: As played fold.
Hand 2: PF You have 10 BB. Calling 1/4 of your stack here to someone who has you covered 2x over is not recommended. Just shove. Post - still shove.
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