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Old 10-12-2007, 09:08 AM
Suigin406 Suigin406 is offline
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Default Re: Fold or Fist Pump?

like tar said, low af means i'm betting, sux if he checks behind here...

i don't fold here fwiw
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Old 10-12-2007, 09:38 AM
SnglMaltScotch SnglMaltScotch is offline
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Default Re: Fold or Fist Pump?

This is a fairly easy fold for me.

This whole argument depends on having enough hands on villian to make accurate decisions.

Villian is agro enough pf to raise AK, KQ in the cutoff. I dont see him showing up with this here.

He isn't 3betting pushing KT->Kx here. Not with a 0.7 aggro factor. Just not happening.

He probably doesn't have KK or maybe 99 since he would have raised these preflop.

I have trouble seeing a 0.7 agro factor push a heart draw unless it is 8x of hearts.

0.7 agro factors don't push air here.

So what does that leave... 66, 99, K9, maybe a combo heart draw, 77.

Pretty easy fold here.

BTW: please bet the turn.

SMS
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Old 10-12-2007, 10:00 AM
balzak520 balzak520 is offline
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Default Re: Fold or Fist Pump?

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you've noted his low af, but you're checking to induce? can't have it both ways. lead the turn

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Old 10-12-2007, 10:09 AM
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Default Re: Fold or Fist Pump?

Lead turn. As played call and laugh at like AA.
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:12 PM
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This is a fairly easy fold for me.

This whole argument depends on having enough hands on villian to make accurate decisions.

Villian is agro enough pf to raise AK, KQ in the cutoff. I dont see him showing up with this here.

He isn't 3betting pushing KT->Kx here. Not with a 0.7 aggro factor. Just not happening.

He probably doesn't have KK or maybe 99 since he would have raised these preflop.

I have trouble seeing a 0.7 agro factor push a heart draw unless it is 8x of hearts.

0.7 agro factors don't push air here.

So what does that leave... 66, 99, K9, maybe a combo heart draw, 77.

Pretty easy fold here.

BTW: please bet the turn.

SMS

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Good post. About how I thought about thing after the fact, however in the time I had, I put him on a K / 76 / ATC and called.

I think this is one of the spots I tend to have trouble with as I often think of 35/15s as playing almost any two cards and getting overly attached to any piece of the board. In reality, they play any piece of cheese, but instead play it to hit somthing disguised and get paid over aggro SLAGs like I appear to have been here.

He showed K9 FTW. GG me.
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:30 PM
poincaraux poincaraux is offline
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Lol @ 0evg0.

The turn is fully based on villains tendency to fold to a 2nd barrel fairly often but bet if checked to on the turn. I have no doubt about my choice to stack-a-donk here. Versus most others, I'm definitely betting.

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I usually adjust to this by putting myself in a position to fire more 2nd barrels, and then firing them. The fact that I also fire with my good hands means that I don't necessarily have to fold the first time he plays back at me (I expect responses to raises to be stronger than responses to check-raises).

Is that bad?
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:48 PM
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Lead turn. As played call and laugh at like AA.

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