$16 - KK hand check

mattiesmat · #1 10-12-2007, 08:04 AM

How did I play the hand and how would you have played it?
Sorry I do not remember stats/reads anymore.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) by Hand Converter CG

BB (t2710)
UTG (t2405)
UTG+1 (t560)
MP1 (t550)
Hero (t1415)
MP3 (t1480)
CO (t1305)
Button (t2255)
SB (t820)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises to t150, 2 folds, Hero raises to t450, 5 folds, UTG calls t300.

Flop: (t975) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t975) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets t200, Hero raises to t965, UTG calls t765.

River: (t2905) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t2905

binarysmil · #2 10-12-2007, 08:05 AM

I would have bet the flop...if reraised, easy fold.

mattiesmat · #3 10-12-2007, 08:08 AM

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I would have bet the flop...if reraised, easy fold.

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Even if an ace is in many of his possible holdings and with a 950ish stack and a 975 pot?

binarysmil · #4 10-12-2007, 08:15 AM

Well yeah sorry i answered too quickly.
Make it 250, if he does not have an ace, since you reraised him preflop, well he is gonna be scared probably and wont call with two undercards...

Pocketbear · #5 10-12-2007, 08:20 AM

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Make it 250, if he does not have an ace, since you reraised him preflop, well he is gonna be scared probably and wont call with two undercards...

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WTF?

I'm just calling the turn and re-evaluating on the river.

mattiesmat · #6 10-12-2007, 08:50 AM

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Make it 250, if he does not have an ace, since you reraised him preflop, well he is gonna be scared probably and wont call with two undercards...

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WTF?

I'm just calling the turn and re-evaluating on the river.

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Call even when your stack is then 1415-450-200=765 and you have invested 650/1415=46% of your stack then?
Would you lay it down on the river?
Isn't the check on the flop, the small bet on the turn, the 2 aces on board enough reason to think we are ahead?
Isn't a push better because we would commit and by checking we give him a chance to outdraw us?

Q.. · #7 10-12-2007, 09:11 AM

We are really committed to this pot so ill try to play it in a way to get worse hands to pay me, so check flop, call turn, and id be allin on river regardless of action, that way QQ JJ TT might all pay us. I see no need to bet this flop since that would be clearly -ev. QQ- we have crushed - folds, A+ has us crushed - calls.

Pokerfarian · #8 10-12-2007, 10:17 AM

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Well yeah sorry i answered too quickly.
Make it 250, if he does not have an ace, since you reraised him preflop, well he is gonna be scared probably and wont call with two undercards...

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And we'd hate him to call with two undercards...you don't want him to fold if he doesn't have an Ace. He won't fold if he has an Ace.

ssnyc · #9 10-12-2007, 10:19 AM

if I call this turn I think I am also calling river...not sure if that's right but I think we see a pp as often as an A

sence25 · #10 10-12-2007, 10:22 AM

A smaller PP bets turn and checks river pretty often.
I think it's fine to call turn and be done with the hand then.