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Old 10-11-2007, 11:58 PM
littleeddy littleeddy is offline
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Default KK vs maniac

This guys crazy 71/6 over 100...he's all over the place.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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Hero (SB): $56.50
BB: $49.50
UTG: $51.10
MP: $94.60
CO: $106.85
BTN: $52.05

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1.75</font>, MP calls $1.75, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, 2 folds, MP calls $6.25

Flop: ($18.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $13.50</font>, Hero??
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:01 AM
n4rf n4rf is offline
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Default Re: KK vs maniac

You do realize that he his PF% is 6%, so his raising range is very tight. I think he has a hand here; he could be doing this with air but even if you call, what are you going to do on the next two streets? This is an easy fold for me.
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:09 AM
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You do realize that he his PF% is 6%, so his raising range is very tight. I think he has a hand here; he could be doing this with air but even if you call, what are you going to do on the next two streets? This is an easy fold for me.

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This guys raising range isn't even close to the top 6% of hands...it's going to be much more random.
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:13 AM
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Default Re: KK vs maniac

I'd like it a lot more if you made the bet and then considered giving up. Checking there seems to be no other option but to fold.
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:13 AM
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You do realize that he his PF% is 6%, so his raising range is very tight. I think he has a hand here; he could be doing this with air but even if you call, what are you going to do on the next two streets? This is an easy fold for me.

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This guys raising range isn't even close to the top 6% of hands...it's going to be much more random.

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While I agree that it can *possibly be a big range as well, he isn't going to be raising with garbage.
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:19 AM
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You do realize that he his PF% is 6%, so his raising range is very tight. I think he has a hand here; he could be doing this with air but even if you call, what are you going to do on the next two streets? This is an easy fold for me.

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This guys raising range isn't even close to the top 6% of hands...it's going to be much more random.

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While I agree that it can *possibly be a big range as well, he isn't going to be raising with garbage.

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Maybe but 100 hands just isn't enough to make any assumptions on this type of player. I'd bet the flop against this guy. As played I think you should probably fold and find a better spot to stack him.
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:24 AM
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Default Re: KK vs maniac

I've gone broke a few times when villan was super maniac and I picked the very wrong time to not believe him. If he's betting a lot I might give up and let him have the pot. You can pick better spots than this without making heroic reads or calldowns.
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Old 10-12-2007, 01:05 AM
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Default Re: KK vs maniac

I would lead out into this flop, and see what he does. But taking you're line, I would fold, because he really could have something like A6, that 71/6 stat line means that he likes seeing alot of flops, and plays tight on the flop.
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:09 AM
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Id lead the flop as you showed strengh pre and hes goin to have a hard time calling without an A.
Once you check the flop and he bets it though, its going to cost way to much to just find out he has an A so i think you have to fold.
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:13 AM
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I c-bet this every time unless villain has a very low fold to c-bet.

As played I fold.
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