AK encounters lots of resistance

KingOfSwords · #1 10-11-2007, 05:53 PM

No reads.
Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Max buy-in $400
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $168.50
UTG+1: $206.55
CO: $137.30
King: $557.85
SB: $398
BB: $184

Pre-flop: (6 players) King is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO calls, King raises to $10, SB calls, BB folds, CO calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($32, 3 players)
SB checks, CO checks, King bets $26, SB raises to $77, CO folds, King calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($186, 2 players)
SB bets $120, King raises all-in $470.85, SB calls all-in $191.
Uncalled bets: $159.85 returned to King.

KCrow · #2 10-11-2007, 06:17 PM

200bb deep, I'd consider a fold on the turn, I don't see what we beat. I'd hate to be stacking off with TPTK for 200bb. 55, 99 and K9 are easily in the villains range, I don't see KQ, KJ or a flush draw calling AI on the turn.

cs3 · #3 10-11-2007, 06:23 PM

stacking off 200 BB's with TPTK vs an unkwon is a leak..
ch/r into 2 players, one of them being the PFR'r, is like always a set/K9.
im not sure if we shuold be calling turn, but i probably just call, and fold river if he shoves. i know we would be getting pretty good odds on a river call but he wouldnt be shoving anything we beat.
rarely see guys take this line with flush draws this deep, and i dont think KQ ever plays it that strong after you call the flop

edit- looks like i started typing this up before Kcrow posted, but i pretty much agree with what he said adn wrote almost the exact same thing

albinp · #4 10-11-2007, 06:43 PM

I agree with cs3, call on turn might be ok I guess but the shove isn't doing anything good at all, he won't call you with anything less then a 2pair

chris269 · #5 10-11-2007, 06:49 PM

If you call the turn, you are getting 2,3:1 on the river, so I don't see how you can fold the river anymore. I would have folded turn.

cs3 · #6 10-11-2007, 07:42 PM

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If you call the turn, you are getting 2,3:1 on the river, so I don't see how you can fold the river anymore. I would have folded turn.

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jsut because we make one mistake, doesnt we mean we should make a more costly mistake later in the hand and justify it by saying we are "getting X:1 odds".

i hear that all the time but the fact is, a river push is another strong piece of information telling us TPTK is no good, regardless of the odds.

ryang · #7 10-11-2007, 08:14 PM

i'm thinking QKd