AK vs Unknown, 25nl, turn decision

[MrWooster]

Given the flop raise is only a min-raise - I think we see a set here a lot...

[RockRattler]

to all the people saying set - are you folding turn?

and I guess you set guys hate OP's line then?

[carlj123]

thats a very weak flopraise from him. What about a raise on the flop and fold to a shove?

[Brian O'Nolan]

My default here is to get AI. If he flats that flop and raises the turn I lean towards a fold. I might lead the turn given villain is unknown but CRAI has its merits too.

I think you see KQ-KT, FD, 45, sets here... given an unknown it's difficult to weight his range. With you having the Ad you'd give a bit less weight to FDs, and be more inclined to just call the flop minraise. I don't like reraising this flop- there are some draws out, yes, but you are usually going to be getting your money in fairly bad when you get AI on this flop. And reraising and folding to a shove would be awful.

[kurto]

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Personally im ruling out a set, for the simple reason that i think he smooth calls 22 and 33 on the flop giving you another chance to bet into him, as for 888 again i doubt he is making that min raise on a k high board with the eights. Personally i think he is on a flush draw or posibly KQ and is taking a stab after you have shown weakness. What did you do?

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many players would never smoothcall their set here because they want to charge any potential flushdraws.

[TheDoubleA]

I dont know..........

It is a weird line that is for sure.

When folded around to the btn, what the hell do you limp in with and then call a raise. I would think any pp here on the btn would raise preflop. At first I thought that maybe he backing into a set with 88, but that without a doubt gets raised preflop.

So I think Kx here is seen way more often than not. K9-KQ I think is a good range to put him on. I guess maybe K7s or K8s is a possiblilty. (screwing you if he had K8s, god that would be sick!!!) A flush draw is possible here too, but I think again you would see a call on the flop, and not a minraise.

Another thought is that the guy has air. Maybe he wanted to play a nice small limped pot and didnt like you raising his limp, so he is going to play this fast for getting out of the line he wanted you to follow. As stupid as this seems, I tend to see this at 25nl. He could have A2o here, or 10,7 for all we know.

I think that I would weight his range really heavily at K9-KQ here, with an odd 22, 33, and a total air thrown in. I guess once in a blue moon you will see AA here, but I wouldnt worry about it.

I also think that it would be better to raise preflop to 1.25-1.50. Standard 4xBB + 1BB for each limper. This also makes it easier to define his hand imo.

As played, I push the turn.

[TheDoubleA]

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Personally im ruling out a set, for the simple reason that i think he smooth calls 22 and 33 on the flop giving you another chance to bet into him, as for 888 again i doubt he is making that min raise on a k high board with the eights. Personally i think he is on a flush draw or posibly KQ and is taking a stab after you have shown weakness. What did you do?

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many players would never smoothcall their set here because they want to charge any potential flushdraws.

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A minraise here would be horrible then. It would give the flush draws a decent price to call, and inflate the pot to a point that if a flush does hit, it would be really hard to get away from.

I would rarely smooth call, but I would raise it up 2.5-3.5 times the inital bet on the flop.

[fursza01]

I would probably get away from top pair here because i think its not hard for villian to call preflop with 22 or 33. I don't have a lot of expierence at this level though so I dont know how prone the players are to go all the way with Kx here.