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Old 10-10-2007, 06:01 PM
rberg rberg is offline
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Default NL200 two pair raised on turn

villian is unknown, he just sat down a few hands before.
The hand before this one he got it in with 2nd pair on a KJxss flop vs. my nut flush draw and held up.

What do you think about the turn?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($206.60)
Button ($207)
SB ($66.25)
Hero ($320.70)
UTG ($200)
MP ($282.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($13) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $6</font>, Hero calls $6.

Turn: ($25) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $18</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $56</font>, Hero ?
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Old 10-10-2007, 06:05 PM
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Default Re: NL200 two pair raised on turn

id just shove...u said he got it in with 2nd pair on KJx? that makes me think hes an idiot and hes stacking off lighter here too.
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Old 10-10-2007, 06:10 PM
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Default Re: NL200 two pair raised on turn

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id just shove...u said he got it in with 2nd pair on KJx? that makes me think hes an idiot and hes stacking off lighter here too.

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Assume the previous hand didnt happen....would your plan change?
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Old 10-10-2007, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: NL200 two pair raised on turn

ship it.
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Old 10-10-2007, 08:25 PM
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id just shove...u said he got it in with 2nd pair on KJx? that makes me think hes an idiot and hes stacking off lighter here too.

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I dont possibly see how shoving can be good. We are way behind his range here, even if his range is wide we are still behind
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Old 10-11-2007, 04:12 AM
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Default Re: NL200 two pair raised on turn

So i just called, cause his small c-bet on the flop combined with his turn raise on this board scared me.
The river blanks and i check, he bets about $96 into the $130 pot and leaves himself with about $40 behind. i fold.

???
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Old 10-11-2007, 04:15 AM
Cue-Ball 66 Cue-Ball 66 is offline
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Default Re: NL200 two pair raised on turn

I must be missing something major here. I'm very, very confused. How are we behind his range? I'm seriously puzzled.
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Old 10-11-2007, 04:25 AM
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I must be missing something major here. I'm very, very confused. How are we behind his range? I'm seriously puzzled.

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what do you think his range is?
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Old 10-11-2007, 04:34 AM
Cue-Ball 66 Cue-Ball 66 is offline
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Default Re: NL200 two pair raised on turn

QT, QJ, QK, QA, TT+, 77, AK, TJ

Plus other crazily played stuff obv.
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Old 10-11-2007, 04:43 AM
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Default Re: NL200 two pair raised on turn

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QT, QJ, QK, QA, TT+, 77, AK, TJ

Plus other crazily played stuff obv.

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We're about even vs. this range, but him raising KQ,QT,JT,AQ on this board with hero leading the turn is rather unlikely imo.
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