3/6 Weird Check-raise All in on River

tweed_blazer · #1 10-10-2007, 11:40 PM

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Looks rather heavily like 88 (i'd fold)

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huh?

You could argue 88 might check the turn, but after Hero checks along and grossly underplays his overpair (on ALL streets), what in the world would make you think 88 would get sneaky enough to checkraise that river? I think with how deceptively Hero played this hand, this is a must call on the river.

m_reed05 · #2 10-10-2007, 11:56 PM

But I still (in my eyes) only beat a pure bluff.

And I can't completely agree that I grossly underplayed it. Preflop is certainly justifiable, as I'm trying to induce a squeeze given the 3-bet trigger-happy nature of the games these days. And postflop is all predicated on the fact that I cold called preflop. Given the situation, I felt like I was either way ahead or way behind, and if I pushed too hard, I would only drag along the hands that had me crushed. If alot of money goes into this pot postflop, I am going to be way behind... atleast thats how I felt. Obviously if I had 3-bet and he had called, it would play entirely differently, and I would be much more willing to get it all in.

Teph · #3 10-11-2007, 12:14 AM

I don't know when this isn't a fh/AA, but you played it so gaylord that I think villain can take this action and expect you to fold a ton of hands.

I agree with berserk that 88 is pretty likely here though.

Next time just get the money in while ahead imo.

m_reed05 · #4 10-11-2007, 12:28 AM

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...I think villain can take this action and expect you to fold a ton of hands.

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I agree in theory, but how many people are actually willing to follow through in practice and check-raise all-in on a bluff. I think it's a very small percentage.

m_reed05 · #5 10-11-2007, 01:45 AM

I time down and fold, simply because so few people are willing to do this on a bluff, and I have to be right a lot for this to be profitable. He shows Jd7d obviously.

AAismyfriend · #6 10-11-2007, 01:49 AM

I would call. I would also raise the flop. I would also bet the turn. Also, who is villain?

ArturiusX · #7 10-11-2007, 02:00 AM

bet the turn for all that is holy. my god, how can you check the turn?!

ArturiusX · #8 10-11-2007, 02:00 AM

how has no one rapped him about the turn check?

EgoSlasher · #9 10-11-2007, 01:51 PM

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bet the turn for all that is holy. my god, how can you check the turn?!

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IceCremMnstr · #10 10-11-2007, 09:02 AM

I say hes moving in b/c you checked the turn. He took that as a sign of weakness so he shoved. He knows you can only call with a big pair or a full house.

Call.