***yankees official offseason thread*****

[DesertCat]

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I believe you switched those - Cabrera's range is subpar and Rowand's range is great.


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I don't have access to any advanced defensive metrics so I used baseball ref's RF9 field. Rowand's RF9 for 2007 was 2.64 vs a league ave of 2.71. Melky's RF9 for centerfield was 3.02. I understand how rough these numbers are, advanced metrics may paint a totally different picture.

But that won't totally change my point. Melky is probably only a bit below league average in CF hitting. If his defense is decent, is it worth spending $11M per year more on Rowand? Rowand is likely to get worse, while Melky could still get better. They went down this path putting a ton of money into Damon and now they are stuck with a guy who can't hit well enough to play anything but center, but who they apparently feel can no longer play center.

Of course if Melky's defense is on par with Damons, you might as well play Damon for the extra offense.

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This thread makes my head hurt

[durron597]

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Of course if Melky's defense is on par with Damons, you might as well play Damon for the extra offense.

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melky's defense >>>> damon's defense for sure

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NEW YORK (AP) - Mariano Rivera isn't happy that Joe Torre might be out as manager of the New York Yankees and said the team's decision will be factored into whether he returns.

"I don't feel good about it," Rivera said Wednesday, two days after the Yankees were eliminated from the playoffs. "I don't see why they're even thinking (about letting Torre go). I wish he's back, definitely. If you ask me what I would want, I want him back."

Rivera's contract also is expiring and he is eligible to become a free agent. He said whether Torre returns will help determine whether he remains with the Yankees.

"It might do a lot of it," he said. "I mean, I've been with Joe for so many years, and the kind of person he has been for me and for my teammates. It's been great. The thing is that I don't see why they have to put him in this position."

Rivera, who turns 38 next month, plans to speak with Torre soon. The pitcher, regarded by many as baseball's greatest closer, wanted to negotiate an extension during spring training, but the Yankees decided to delay talks until after the season. He made $10.5 million.

"I'm going to be open to hear all offers," said Rivera, who wants a multiyear contract. "The Yankees had the opportunity but didn't do nothing with it."

Asked if the Yankees would be his first choice regardless of the decision on Torre, he responded: "Right now, I can't tell you that."

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[CharlieDontSurf]

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NEW YORK (AP) - Mariano Rivera isn't happy that Joe Torre might be out as manager of the New York Yankees and said the team's decision will be factored into whether he returns.

"I don't feel good about it," Rivera said Wednesday, two days after the Yankees were eliminated from the playoffs. "I don't see why they're even thinking (about letting Torre go). I wish he's back, definitely. If you ask me what I would want, I want him back."

Rivera's contract also is expiring and he is eligible to become a free agent. He said whether Torre returns will help determine whether he remains with the Yankees.

"It might do a lot of it," he said. "I mean, I've been with Joe for so many years, and the kind of person he has been for me and for my teammates. It's been great. The thing is that I don't see why they have to put him in this position."

Rivera, who turns 38 next month, plans to speak with Torre soon. The pitcher, regarded by many as baseball's greatest closer, wanted to negotiate an extension during spring training, but the Yankees decided to delay talks until after the season. He made $10.5 million.

"I'm going to be open to hear all offers," said Rivera, who wants a multiyear contract. "The Yankees had the opportunity but didn't do nothing with it."

Asked if the Yankees would be his first choice regardless of the decision on Torre, he responded: "Right now, I can't tell you that."

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Hmmm...who could we hire that is beloved by both the players on the team and yankee fans....and knows the team/players well

[brettbrettr]

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Hmmm...who could we hire that is beloved by both the players on the team and yankee fans....and knows the team/players well


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Think the Yanks might sign Torre for one more in order to sign Mo, Posada, etc for more than one? Seems they have to st least consider it.

[Karak567]

The Yankees, essentially, need a solution at catcher for 4-5 years... if they believe Montero is the real deal. Posada can't really be good for more than 2 more years... what do you do then? Get someone to patch it up for another 2-3 years? What if Montero fizzles?

[Triumph36]

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The Yankees, essentially, need a solution at catcher for 4-5 years... if they believe Montero is the real deal. Posada can't really be good for more than 2 more years... what do you do then? Get someone to patch it up for another 2-3 years? What if Montero fizzles?

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Yes. That's exactly what you do. Because there's no alternative - it's not like catchers are known for aging well, and who are the Yankees going to trade for? What kind of sense does that make to deal for a catcher when the best one in the league last year is available?

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Can they buy out the rest of Giambi's contract? I feel like I heard that somewhere that they can buy him out for like 5 million, which is definitely worth it.

[jtg51]

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Can they buy out the rest of Giambi's contract? I feel like I heard that somewhere that they can buy him out for like 5 million, which is definitely worth it.

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There's a $22M club option with a $5M buyout for 2009. He gets $21M this year, so he essentially has a 1-year, $26M contract. And a full no-trade clause. No way he's going anywhere.

Arn Tellum really got the best of the Yankees on that one.