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10-10-2007, 08:43 AM
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Turned the flush.... now IM facing a river push on a paired board.
Just sat down. Villian is a 40/10/2.25
I lead the turn, because I didnt like c/c or c/r. Now he pushes the river when I checked (loooking to c/c) - clearly a 1/2 psb woulda been better then fold to a raise, but given the line I took whos calling and why? and whos folding and why? (I have a note on him daying he makes small blocker bets when he wants cheap showdown.) Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players LegoPoker Hand History Converter SB: $16 Hero (BB): $48.75 UTG: $27.70 MP: $51.55 CO: $99.05 BTN: $50.75 Pre-Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB) UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $1</font>, SB calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.50, UTG calls $0.50 Flop: ($4) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players) SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $2</font>, SB calls $2, Hero calls $2, UTG folds Turn: ($10) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players) SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $7</font>, BTN calls $7, SB folds River: ($24) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $40.75 and is All-In</font>, Hero...??? 
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10-10-2007, 10:24 AM
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Re: Turned the flush.... now IM facing a river push on a paired board.
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(I have a note on him daying he makes small blocker bets when he wants cheap showdown.) [/ QUOTE ] Just so you know, this note is irrelevant here. Villain is in position -- he has no reason to block. If he wanted a cheap showdown he would have just checked behind. So, villain made a big overbet in a pot where you've got a flush. You beat bluffs, AK (TPTK), AQ (straight), AA (overpair), QQ(underpair), and KJ/KT/JT (two pair). I doubt this passive villain is raising preflop with KJ or KT, so we can minimize those. What beats us? KK/JJ/TT (boat), A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]x[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (nut flush), K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (strong flush). How solid is this read on villain, given that you just sat down? A 2.25 aggression says he's pretty aggressive. When you bet the turn you kind of tipped your hand as strong -- the board pairs and flushes and you go from check/calling to betting -- so villain probably knows you like your hand. Despite this he pushes the river. If he thought you were bluffing on the turn he could have stolen the river for a song -- $12 would pick up the pot against garbage just as easily as $40 would. So I'm thinking that villain actually LIKES his hand against your range, and given that your range bottoms out at trips and is very likely a flush, I suspect he has the full house fairly often, here. Since you need to win about 40% of the time for this to be +EV, I'm afraid I'd fold. I'd also pay attention to villain in the future and try to quickly get a read on him so that I know what this sort of river push means in the future.
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10-10-2007, 10:24 AM
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Re: Turned the flush.... now IM facing a river push on a paired board.
Why do you check the river? I would try to get some value out of 2 pairs hands.
As played I think I call the river I think he does this with more than a boat
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