16$ : 33

Rodolphe · #1 10-09-2007, 11:37 AM

2.5BB is good ? And what about limping ?

Call the shove ?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t1655)
CO (t1585)
Button (t1470)
SB (t865)
BB (t930)
UTG (t1905)
UTG+1 (t2940)
MP1 (t2150)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises to t250, 2 folds, SB raises to t865, 1 fold, Hero calls t615.

Flop: (t1830) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: (t1830) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t1830) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t1830

Shortcorner · #2 10-09-2007, 11:46 AM

I'm not mad about it tbh. I fold pre flop, i just think 33 is too weak to raise and as the blinds are as they are it is not porfitable for set value. I fold to reraise, you are either way behind or racing at best and still have plenty of chips. I like the fold pre the more i think about it, you might as well have been stealing with 72o. Too early to shove to late to limp, and i don't want to tangled with desperate shorties with 33.

Rodolphe · #3 10-09-2007, 11:56 AM

And what about this hand :

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t1310)
Button (t2670)
SB (t1385)
BB (t2835)
UTG (t1290)
UTG+1 (t1225)
MP1 (t1030)
MP2 (t1755)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
4 folds, Hero raises to t250, 3 folds.

Final Pot: t250

Shortcorner · #4 10-09-2007, 12:04 PM

Trickier

This is closer to a push fold decision but is still a fold, opponents would have to be incredibley tight for push to be profitable. If they all call with just top 9% it is -EV.

Again i fold. But i might be wrong on this. SPP don't take much heat.

cardworm · #5 10-09-2007, 12:08 PM

I like a fold in this spot.

Webster · #6 10-09-2007, 12:11 PM

I typically agree with Shortcorner but I would raise with 33 as you did trying to steal IF I knew that the others were playing tight and going into their shell.

It's not a real hand, it's a stealing hand. SB pushes so I would go in with him. Win and you win his 860 AND boot him out!

If he raised with and was not goign all in I would fold.

RexWoo · #7 10-10-2007, 04:41 AM

I fold preflop in both hand. The second is closer to a push imo because you're CO.

McSturdy · #8 10-10-2007, 04:55 AM

I definetly fold the 1st hand. 33 can't take any heat and the blinds are so short there prob looking for a spot to stick it in..

2nd hand I could raise if have the blinds down as particularly tight.. Most times I would muck it..

I think in both cases you have a really bad stack size to play these baby pairs. With 13-16bb you can't limp for a set, push (other than sb), or call re-raises since you don't want to flip for most (or all) of your stack when you still have a bunch of FE..

Pocketbear · #9 10-10-2007, 05:18 AM

I'm folding both hands and I actually think raising in hand #1 is pretty horrible.

Anna. · #10 10-10-2007, 07:14 AM

serious question.

do you have any idea how to play SnGs? are you incredibly insecure about your game?

you've posted some terribly played hands and some okay played hands and some good hands. basically, it seems like you post almost every hand you play. most of the hands you post are ridiculously standard spots that you're going to have to get used to playing automatically.

that said. fold 3,3 for sure.
the 4,4 is meh.