what do we do on this turn...

1YearToVegas · #1 10-09-2007, 11:26 PM

ok..to explain one thing...the small cbet was because he has been folding if he totally misses everytime...i started with a $1.25 bet...over a bunch of hands lowered it to $1...and after a while lowered it to .50 and it continued to be effective...also he wouldnt do this without hitting the flop..but he is capable of having a draw

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($20.35)
BB ($44.80)
UTG ($26.60)
MP ($12.10)
Hero ($37.15)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, BB calls $0.50.

Flop: ($1.60) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.5, BB raises to $2.25, Hero raises to $7.5, BB calls $5.25.

Turn: ($16.60) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks

what are we doing here?

n4rf · #2 10-09-2007, 11:29 PM

check behind, take a free card. doesn't look like you have much fold equity if you put out a big bet

Dallas Dru · #3 10-09-2007, 11:32 PM

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check behind, take a free card. doesn't look like you have much fold equity if you put out a big bet

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totally agree... you really have no fold equity in this position

1YearToVegas · #4 10-09-2007, 11:36 PM

are there any blanks that I bet if he checks the river

also is it a vbet or a bluff?

whyzze · #5 10-09-2007, 11:37 PM

if this is the first time he has ever raised my cbet then I will check behind. But if he has done this before then I like a bet.

There may not be much fold equity but there has to be some. I am not really worried about a double c/r and I want a nice big pot for my monster draw. We aren't getting much out of him if we make a flush on the river and even less if we make a straight.

I would also check behind if we were just 100bbs.

1YearToVegas · #6 10-09-2007, 11:46 PM

yeah with these stacks I did feel I had some fold equity...i had a little trouble figuring his range here...i ruled out QQ+ and had a hard time deciding if I could rule out JJ

that leaves:
J9+
89
22
88
99
TT
67
JT
and other flush draws

is there any other hands you would throw in?

most of these hands are ahead of me...but a good portion of it will fold and I do have outs against everything

does this change anything or is it a definite check

then again my question is what am i doing on river

obv i fold if i miss and he bets

but what if he checks and i missed

whyzze · #7 10-09-2007, 11:48 PM

I'm not betting a blank river here ever...well I would need a pretty good read.

achtzhen · #8 10-09-2007, 11:51 PM

Wow I must say I really dont like this hand. .5 for a cbet? Please rethink this.

You say he folds when he completely misses the flop but he raises this one. This make me think a call is better than a reraise.

All in all I would have let the hand go on the flop.

On the turn checking is really weak but I think you are going to get called no matter what you bet. From what you said I dont think he would put that much money in with a flush draw.

Take the free card.

Numfar · #9 10-10-2007, 01:42 AM

Don't really understand the c-bet but whatever, you know villain better than I do. Flop 3bet is good - you've got a big hand and are happy to get AI in here + any FE makes it more profitable.

Your hand got even bigger on the Turn and I would always bet again here however a check behind is probably fine. I just prefer to take a shot when I could have some FE and outs if I don't. Pot odds decision if he raises.

River - unimproved I check behind.

mookboi · #10 10-10-2007, 02:10 AM

I check behind this turn. If he just called flop cbet instead of CR, I would fire 2nd barrel, because we just picked up a ton of equity + we have some FE. However, with CR and call-3bet, villain looks like he likes his hand. I just check behind & hope to hit on river.