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Old 10-09-2007, 06:50 PM
cantsitstillbr cantsitstillbr is offline
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Default AA hand gets mini-raised on drawy flop- probably simple

Just double checking. CO has been at the table like 5 hands and seen 0 flops.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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Hero (MP): $32.60
CO: $25.85
BTN: $8.75
SB: $95.80
BB: $10.80
UTG: $24.65

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.85</font>, CO calls $0.85, 3 folds

Flop: ($2.05) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $1.75</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $3.50</font>, Hero[/i]

calls and re-evaluates turn? stack-a-donk on a safe card?

Push is too big right? If I raise and he comes over the top, I gotta call right?

What if the turn is 6?

What if the turn is [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ?
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Old 10-09-2007, 07:13 PM
Jewrilla Jewrilla is offline
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Default Re: AA hand gets mini-raised on drawy flop- probably simple

IMO smells like a fd trying to get a free river. also your bet could be c-bet.
rs to 10 push safe turn. str8s and 2p hands likely push bc of fd. so prob fold to a repush on flop.
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Old 10-09-2007, 08:55 PM
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Default Re: AA hand gets mini-raised on drawy flop- probably simple

I typically call and re-evaluate turn but I'm never sure if this is the best line. 3-bet/folding seems horrible after putting so much money in.

I think lead a safe turn rather than stack-a-donk, a lot of draws and marginal made hands will check behind if you check. Check/fold a 6, as for a club... well it gives you some outs so you could maybe call a reasonable bet
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Old 10-09-2007, 09:44 PM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: AA hand gets mini-raised on drawy flop- probably simple

This isn't simple, and it especially isn't against an unknown.

I probably either say the hell with it and 3-bet and play for stacks if necessary or just call and let Villain take control of the hand, with the plan of getting to showdown cheaply if possible or folding if Villain bombs the turn (not an easy plan to follow with AA, but that's what I might tell myself as I was calling the flop).

I'm not thrilled with either option, but that's how it goes sometimes.
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:06 PM
wire wire is offline
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Default Re: AA hand gets mini-raised on drawy flop- probably simple

Pick a better spot or reraise huge.

Listen, there's nothing wrong with folding here. Sure, you would feel like the man if you built a huge pot and the villain showed down JJ. But how likely is that?

But you would feel more confident in your game if you exercise some discipline, fold, and 5 hands later you stack this guy in a better spot.
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:21 PM
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Default Re: AA hand gets mini-raised on drawy flop- probably simple

My standard line vs an unknown is to CALL and bet/fold a non club turn..HOWEVER holding the Ace of clubs I will most likely check/call the turn..Villain looks like he may let you see a cheap river(based on villains weak min raise on flop)..
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:58 PM
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Default Re: AA hand gets mini-raised on drawy flop- probably simple

Letting two more cards pop out on this board does not seem good with AA. It is villain dependent, without those stats its gut instinct and either way won't be far too wrong. You are OOP so I like a decision on the flop. You are getting called by all sorts of worse hands and draws.
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Old 10-10-2007, 12:21 AM
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Default Re: AA hand gets mini-raised on drawy flop- probably simple

I never fold this flop. i would 3 bet 90% of the time looking to get it all in or occaisionally call and CRAI a non club turn.
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Old 10-10-2007, 01:28 AM
Numfar Numfar is offline
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Default Re: AA hand gets mini-raised on drawy flop- probably simple

I don't think that you can call. If there was just a FD or just a SD then a call and crai on blank turn might be good but with both FDs &amp; SDs on the board there are way to many scare cards that could come on the turn. I have to raise and call a push.
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Old 10-10-2007, 01:29 AM
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Default Re: AA hand gets mini-raised on drawy flop- probably simple

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I never fold this flop. i would 3 bet 90% of the time looking to get it all in or occaisionally call and CRAI a non club turn.

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I'd never c/r a non-club turn. Draws will check thru 90% of the time. I'd probably just get it all-in on the flop here.
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