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10-09-2007, 03:45 AM
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50NL Good fold with JJ? (on 3t353 board)
Villian is 18/8/1 over 163 hands
i was scared when the minraise happened, I guess I shoulda bet another street but i just felt like he was trying to slow play AA or something but then again maybe im way ahead here Full Tilt Poker Game #3800917588: Table Lindell (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 3:38:36 ET - 2007/10/09 Seat 1: Just_A_Poke88 ($18.10) Seat 2: PushAll ($56.15) Seat 3: mishstar ($51.80) Seat 4: no_nick ($38.25) Seat 5: gaboozer ($50) Seat 6: LegalRobbery ($63.35) no_nick posts the small blind of $0.25 gaboozer posts the big blind of $0.50 The button is in seat #3 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PushAll [Jd Jh] LegalRobbery raises to $1.50 Just_A_Poke88 folds PushAll raises to $5.25 mishstar folds no_nick folds gaboozer folds LegalRobbery has 15 seconds left to act LegalRobbery raises to $10.50 PushAll has 15 seconds left to act PushAll calls $5.25 *** FLOP *** [3s Th 3d] LegalRobbery checks PushAll checks *** TURN *** [3s Th 3d] [5c] LegalRobbery bets $13 PushAll has 15 seconds left to act PushAll calls $13 *** RIVER *** [3s Th 3d 5c] [3h] LegalRobbery has 15 seconds left to act LegalRobbery bets $39.85, and is all in PushAll has 15 seconds left to act PushAll has requested TIME PushAll: JJ PushAll folds Uncalled bet of $39.85 returned to LegalRobbery LegalRobbery mucks LegalRobbery wins the pot ($45.40) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $47.75 | Rake $2.35 Board: [3s Th 3d 5c 3h] Seat 1: Just_A_Poke88 didn't bet (folded) Seat 2: PushAll folded on the River Seat 3: mishstar (button) didn't bet (folded) Seat 4: no_nick (small blind) folded before the Flop Seat 5: gaboozer (big blind) folded before the Flop Seat 6: LegalRobbery collected ($45.40), mucked 
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#3
10-09-2007, 01:54 PM
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Re: 50NL Good fold with JJ? (on 3t353 board)
PF screams fold, you're flipping with AK and crushed by the rest of his range. Even still, if you're calling his 4bet pre and putting him on exactly AK (would an 18/8 4bet AQ, TT or worse oop? not unless you have a 80/60 image or something), why check the flop through? You obviously cant get this to showdown through 3 streets for free, nor do you want to give him free cards if he does have AK. The turn call doesnt make any sense either if you're folding an irrelevant river.
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#4
10-09-2007, 01:58 PM
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Re: 50NL Good fold with JJ? (on 3t353 board)
didnt read, convert hand
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#5
10-09-2007, 02:16 PM
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Re: 50NL Good fold with JJ? (on 3t353 board)
You can't really fold pf, can you? It's a minraise.
Flop is fine, turn is fine, river is fine. This line looks really standard to me, and probably how most would handle it. Alternate line: Bet the flop and fold to a raise. You lose the same against TT-AA but gain by not giving overs a free card (though he'd probably lead with missed overs).
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#8
10-09-2007, 02:45 PM
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Re: 50NL Good fold with JJ? (on 3t353 board)
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push or flod preflop calling is bad for obvious reasons [/ QUOTE ] reasons such as...?
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#9
10-09-2007, 03:08 PM
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Re: 50NL Good fold with JJ? (on 3t353 board)
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[ QUOTE ] push or flod preflop calling is bad for obvious reasons [/ QUOTE ] reasons such as...? [/ QUOTE ] You like a call preflop? I'd make one sometimes but I don't think it's very good. Reverse implied odds seem likely to be a strong problem if you don't hit your set, and even with the pot having been inflated calling solely for set value is pretty damn marginal.
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#10
10-09-2007, 03:28 PM
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Re: 50NL Good fold with JJ? (on 3t353 board)
I don't really like this hand at all. Preflop is a pretty sick start, why 3-bet a guy who seems pretty tight passive when he raises UTG, and then when he 4-bets for 20% of stack, why call? You definitely don't have odds to draw to set.
Flop is fine, turn if you're calling, you should call river. There's really no in-between here. And if you think he has AA-QQ, just fold preflop and on the turn.
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