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10-09-2007, 12:43 PM
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TPGK faces turn raise from relatively unknown LP
UTG villain is 40/5/.5 over ~50 hands
MP is 25/12/2 over ~100 hands SB is 17/12/4.5 ~ 300 hands FTP $1/2 FR 9 handed UTG and MP limp, SB completes. I have KsJs in the BB. MP and SB are raising anything better than my hand (88+, AJo+), and I'm way ahead of UTG's range, so I raise for value. 8 SB's to Flop J97 rainbow, I lead, all call. 12 SB's to Turn 9, I bet, UTG raises, all fold, I... Getting 9-1 immediate, 10-2 to call down. He's repping a 9, but I have to call this down against a bad unknown, right? Even though his stats are passive, I think he's enough of a fish to overplay e.g QJ or JT enough to make this a calldown. Yea or nay? 
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#3
10-09-2007, 01:26 PM
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Re: TPGK faces turn raise from relatively unknown LP
Just thinking out loud
You raise pre-flop, lead the flop and lead the turn again after being called by 4 on the flop. You show allot of strength and there is no reason for UTG not to believe you have a J or PP higher then the board. What could he have? J9s,109s, 98s,108s maybe even 99 there's allot of hands that he could call profitably with on the flop. What kinda hands could he raise with that you beat? I can't think of any that a passive player would raise in this spot that you can beat other then a bluff. 88 perhaps? seems very unlikely. Maybe QT but I believe that would be a pretty aggressive play for a passive person to raise an OESD while he's still drawing. I'd fold.
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