NL50 - TT OOP in a BvB situation

[yntm3]

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $69.60
Hero (SB): $48.75
BB: $60.65
UTG: $86.10
CO: $53.95

<font color="blue"> Villain is loose/semi-aggressive pre-flop and semi aggressive post flop around 35/20/3 over a smallish sample. </font>

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $8.75</font>, hero?

OOP sucks here but what is the optimal move and plan for the remainder of the hand?

Due to the blind battle do we give more value to an overpair?

Thankyou.

[corsakh]

Call. You cant shove now, he probably has too much equity. Pot or crai depending on his agression any non threatening turn. He cant have a better hand here since he would 3bet you preflop. A set I believe raises more and its highly unlikely in BvB anyway.

[yntm3]

I don't follow with the shove comment. Do you mean to say if we get it in it'll most likely a flip with most of his draws and if we wait till the turn we kill his equity?

[corsakh]

Yes. Your not only likely to be a flip on the flop, you are likely to be a god. On the turn you should have almost 70% equity.

Another reasonable line is to fold because you can not win a big pot, but can loose a big one.

[dawade]

I'm a nit but I just dump here.

Villain could already have us crushed, be coinflipping, or him actually ahead. We don't have a decent edge over many hands except like A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] which make up a smaller portion of his range.

[yntm3]

How does this change if the board is not monotone?

[whyherro]

definitely call and jam non-diamond turns.

[Schiester]

[ QUOTE ]
Yes. Your not only likely to be a flip on the flop, you are likely to be a god. On the turn you should have almost 70% equity.

Another reasonable line is to fold because you can not win a big pot, but can loose a big one.

[/ QUOTE ]

I like folding this myself but if I'm calling I like waiting for a bit before doing so. That way if we donk a diamond turn he thinks we were drawing. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] It doesn't look like he has a flush or is drawing to a flush imo.

I'm assuming his range for this raise includes any set, 99+ and probably A8 which gives you you equity to call 5.75 into a 17.50 pot... If he's raising air some of the time that is.

i.e. your paying 32.8% with 31.3% equity if he is being honest about his cards.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

51,480 games 0.005 secs 10,296,000 games/sec

Board: 6d 8d 3d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 31.250% 29.20% 02.05% 15030 1057.50 { TcTs }
Hand 1: 68.750% 66.70% 02.05% 34335 1057.50 { 88+, 66, 33, A8s, A8o }

[orange]

i dont think calling/seeing next street or folding is all that bad. pair + diamond draws have nearly even equity with us.