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10-08-2007, 08:00 PM
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Re: I dunno what to do.....call!!
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Is it real bad to bet river and turn your hand into a bluff here? Seems to me it would get alot of hands to fold that could have you beat, but mebbe I'm totally wrong here.. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think it would be terrible, but I def don't like it. You are really only getting called by stuff that beats you imo. 
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10-08-2007, 08:09 PM
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Re: I dunno what to do.....call!!
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[ QUOTE ] Is it real bad to bet river and turn your hand into a bluff here? Seems to me it would get alot of hands to fold that could have you beat, but mebbe I'm totally wrong here.. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think it would be terrible, but I def don't like it. You are really only getting called by stuff that beats you imo. [/ QUOTE ] yeah, worse hands are never calling. But how often are better hands folding? Does T9, QJ, 66 fold? The thing that actually kept me from doing it is that all the broadway hearts were on the board, so I thought it more likely hed think I was bluffing, since I can only really rep 1 heart.
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10-08-2007, 08:15 PM
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Re: I dunno what to do.....call!!
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Is it real bad to bet river and turn your hand into a bluff here? Seems to me it would get alot of hands to fold that could have you beat, but mebbe I'm totally wrong here.. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think it would be terrible, but I def don't like it. You are really only getting called by stuff that beats you imo. [/ QUOTE ] yeah, worse hands are never calling. But how often are better hands folding? Does T9, QJ, 66 fold? The thing that actually kept me from doing it is that all the broadway hearts were on the board, so I thought it more likely hed think I was bluffing, since I can only really rep 1 heart. [/ QUOTE ] The fact that there is only one that you can really rep is a good thing in terms of bluffing this river. If you pretend you raised with Ah Xx, and look back at how this hand was plyed, it makes sense that you have it. (especially the turn call)
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10-08-2007, 08:28 PM
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Re: I dunno what to do.....call!!
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[ QUOTE ] yeah, worse hands are never calling. But how often are better hands folding? Does T9, QJ, 66 fold? The thing that actually kept me from doing it is that all the broadway hearts were on the board, so I thought it more likely hed think I was bluffing, since I can only really rep 1 heart. [/ QUOTE ] The fact that there is only one that you can really rep is a good thing in terms of bluffing this river. If you pretend you raised with Ah Xx, and look back at how this hand was played, it makes sense that you have it. (especially the turn call) [/ QUOTE ] I don't think you can do it unless you shove river. Personally, I like the way he played it.
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10-08-2007, 08:35 PM
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Re: I dunno what to do.....call!!
this is fine but i think betting $58 on the river is better
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10-09-2007, 01:13 AM
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Re: I dunno what to do.....call!!
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] yeah, worse hands are never calling. But how often are better hands folding? Does T9, QJ, 66 fold? The thing that actually kept me from doing it is that all the broadway hearts were on the board, so I thought it more likely hed think I was bluffing, since I can only really rep 1 heart. [/ QUOTE ] The fact that there is only one that you can really rep is a good thing in terms of bluffing this river. If you pretend you raised with Ah Xx, and look back at how this hand was played, it makes sense that you have it. (especially the turn call) [/ QUOTE ] I don't think you can do it unless you shove river. Personally, I like the way he played it. [/ QUOTE ] seriously? I've still got $240 or something behind and its a $109 pot. I wouldnt shove even if I had the Ah, should I be?
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#9
10-09-2007, 07:10 AM
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Re: I dunno what to do.....call!!
No way would I shove this river. I normally check behind in this spot, but since I've been thinking about this post I'm really wondering if I should be bluffing at it. It does fold out a lot of hands you're behind, but if villain is the type to C/R the river with the Ah you're effed. I'm trying to think about the math involved in figuring out how often it needs to work to be profitable.
* Put him on a range so we can estimate how often we are behind. * How often does he have Ah and when he does how often will he C/R the river? * How often will he fold with a hand that beats us at certain bet amounts, and what bet amount have the most EV? It's difficult to figure this out which is why I just check behind....because it's easy. That's not good. Good Post OP.
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