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Old 10-08-2007, 08:21 AM
Crow1974 Crow1974 is offline
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Default How should I play the turn here?

No real reads, fairly early

Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, $3,000 Guarantee, 15/30 Blinds, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: 1,550
UTG: 1,445
UTG+1: 2,875
UTG+2: 3,345
MP1: 1,525
MP2: 2,885
CO: 1,425
BTN: 3,490
Hero (SB): 1,350

Pre-Flop: (45) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T dealt to Hero (SB)
6 folds, BTN calls 30, Hero calls 15, BB checks

Flop: (90) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 8 (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets 90</font>, BB calls 90, BTN calls 90

Turn: (360) 3 (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets 250</font>, BB calls 250, BTN calls 250

River: (1,110) 9 (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets 1,180 and is All-In</font>, 2 folds

Results: 1,110 Pot
BB mucked and WON 1,110 (+740 NET)
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Old 10-08-2007, 08:33 AM
levAA levAA is offline
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Default Re: How should I play the turn here?

You have a relatively low TP with a mediocre kicker - so pot control is most important here.

I would check the flop.

Betting on the turn, after you had two callers on the flop is not good - you feed a pot and commit yourself to it in a situation that is unclear - it is not unlikely you are behind here and play OOP. So checking that turn is imperative.
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Old 10-08-2007, 08:36 AM
Pokerfarian Pokerfarian is offline
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Default Re: How should I play the turn here?

I like the line, I think we have the best hand on the turn a very large % of the time &amp; so I like the bet. River fold is definitely good, he's shoving pot into 2 players one of which has overcalled twice &amp; hasnt spoken on river, so he is bluffing very very rarely.
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Old 10-08-2007, 09:01 AM
Crow1974 Crow1974 is offline
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Default Re: How should I play the turn here?

I thought if I checked the turn and BB checks what I thought was a draw it opens up the button to price me out of seeing the river if he decides to. I figure now in hindsight a bit smaller block bet may be right. (Sorry further discusing I appreciate the feedback obv)
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:39 AM
Rupert Rupert is offline
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Default Re: How should I play the turn here?

I like the lead out at the flop as I think any pair calls you. That said, after 2 callers I would check/call the turn to keep the pot smaller -- it's not really that draw heavy (J9 and 75, aren't necessarily huge in their ranges and you can't just put them on flush draws) so I don't really mind giving a free card.

As played on the river it's an easy fold since a lot of hands got there (including 2 pair type hands although I think this is mostly a straight).
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:06 PM
Dunkman Dunkman is offline
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Default Re: How should I play the turn here?

Lev is right, I agree that most pairs and all sorts of other stuff we are ahead of will call the flop bet, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea. We're OOP against 2 opponents with TP and a marginal kicker on a fairly coordinated flop. Our RIO suck and we need to be thinking pot control from the beginning.
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