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Yet another turn I\'m not happy about. JJ HU with just one oc.
Villain is 29/20/3 over ~100 hands. Sometimes I think a bit of my flop aggression should be moved to the turn. Is this a good time for that or should I also aggro the turn?
PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls. Flop: (7 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls. Turn: (7.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls. River: (9.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, UTG checks. Final Pot: 9.50 BB |
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Re: Yet another turn I\'m not happy about. JJ HU with just one oc.
put villain on a range of hands that raises preflop and then raises this flop
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Re: Yet another turn I\'m not happy about. JJ HU with just one oc.
why get aggro at all?
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Re: Yet another turn I\'m not happy about. JJ HU with just one oc.
He has an extremely high flop af so I think he'd play a lot of his hands like that. Not sure I took that into consideration while playing though. I'm behind A8, KQ and maybe QT or K8 but I think I'm often good on the turn.
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Re: Yet another turn I\'m not happy about. JJ HU with just one oc.
you forgot K8s, discounted 89s, QJ, Q9s, AQ, discounted KK and AA
what hands does he raise preflop and the flop with that you beat? |
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Re: Yet another turn I\'m not happy about. JJ HU with just one oc.
Well, I did list K8 and I think he'd cap AA and KK most of the time. So pf raise a bit less than top 20% of all hands considering his position. And I think this guy could very well cap the flop with a majority of those as well.
You think I'm behind on the turn more often than not? |
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Re: Yet another turn I\'m not happy about. JJ HU with just one oc.
calldown after he raises the flop
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Re: Yet another turn I\'m not happy about. JJ HU with just one oc.
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Well, I did list K8 and I think he'd cap AA and KK most of the time. So pf raise a bit less than top 20% of all hands considering his position. And I think this guy could very well cap the flop with a majority of those as well. You think I'm behind on the turn more often than not? [/ QUOTE ] this is the reason good players don't cap pf with AA or KK here. You go spastic with two outs. When he raises the flop, I think you are winning about 10% of the time. My goal would be to get to showdown. As played, you can c/f the turn. |
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Re: Yet another turn I\'m not happy about. JJ HU with just one oc.
I agree get to showdown after the flop raise but I think our chances of winning are a lot better than 10%. If you really think you're only winning about 10% of the time after the flop raise you should fold outright as calling down bets on the following streets is not going to be worth it.
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Re: Yet another turn I\'m not happy about. JJ HU with just one oc.
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I agree get to showdown after the flop raise but I think our chances of winning are a lot better than 10%. If you really think you're only winning about 10% of the time after the flop raise you should fold outright as calling down bets on the following streets is not going to be worth it. [/ QUOTE ] i was exagerating a bit. i like my hand enough to showdown, but 3betting here is just too much. If he has a flush draw, dont worry about giving a free card, or trying to protect against a free card, because he's going to charge himself anyway. |
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