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Old 10-07-2007, 12:13 PM
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Default Re: $50 6max: JJ RR pf, Ace comes on flop

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Yes. You're getting 4 to 1 and drawing to 2 outs so you have to let it go. If you don't take a stab at this flop, then you might aswell just not 3bet preflop and play for setvalue with your jacks. Are you giving up any A, K, Q-high flop if you're holding jacks in a heads-up pot?

[/ QUOTE ]No. I'm just wondering how I can fold this against such an aggressive villain "who seems to have sth against me" getting 4 to 1.
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Old 10-07-2007, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: $50 6max: JJ RR pf, Ace comes on flop

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Yes. You're getting 4 to 1 and drawing to 2 outs so you have to let it go. If you don't take a stab at this flop, then you might aswell just not 3bet preflop and play for setvalue with your jacks. Are you giving up any A, K, Q-high flop if you're holding jacks in a heads-up pot?

[/ QUOTE ]No. I'm just wondering how I can fold this against such an aggressive villain "who seems to have sth against me" getting 4 to 1.

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because you're way the [censored] behind vs any non-absurd range?
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Old 10-07-2007, 01:00 PM
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Default Re: $50 6max: JJ RR pf, Ace comes on flop

Odds mean nothing when you beat nothing
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Old 10-07-2007, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: $50 6max: JJ RR pf, Ace comes on flop

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because you're way the [censored] behind vs any non-absurd range?

[/ QUOTE ]Don't know how villain's tilting. If he has sth against me he might play some absurd hands but I can't judge that since I've not been at the table playing against him.
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Old 10-07-2007, 01:33 PM
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because you're way the [censored] behind vs any non-absurd range?

[/ QUOTE ]Don't know how villain's tilting. If he has sth against me he might play some absurd hands but I can't judge that since I've not been at the table playing against him.

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if he calls your 3-bet w/ any 2 that he has up to that point, he is still almost certainly not shoving the flop w/ any range you are ahead of. just because there are hands you beat doesnt mean you are ahead of his entire range.
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Old 10-07-2007, 02:00 PM
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and lol @ poster saying a LAGTAG opens T8s UTG. He's not 60/40.

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I play lag/tag and have a 25vpip. I open T8s UTG on the right tables all the time.
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Old 10-07-2007, 02:02 PM
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Oh, and hero should cbet/fold flop.

And more importantly, he should reload pf.
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