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Old 10-07-2007, 01:38 AM
skeetm0n skeetm0n is offline
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Default dry pot - was this a bluff or value bet?

http://www.pokerhand.org/?1559787

notice the shorty is AI and it's a dry pot on the river. was he betting for value? or was he bluffing me off the overpair while somehow knowing the shorty didnt have a better hand (like a flush) and knowing that i didnt have it.
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Old 10-07-2007, 01:54 AM
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Default Re: dry pot - was this a bluff or value bet?

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Old 10-07-2007, 11:49 AM
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Default Re: dry pot - was this a bluff or value bet?

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $1,035.30
BB: $666.70
UTG: $126.10
Hero (CO): $537.30
BTN: $1,047.20

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
BB folds, UTG calls $4, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, BTN calls $16, SB folds, UTG calls $12

Flop: ($52) 9 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 (3 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $36</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $125</font>, UTG calls $110.10 and is All-In, Hero calls $89

Turn: ($412.10) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 is All-In)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($412.10) 3 (3 Players - 1 is All-In)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $500</font>, Hero folds

Results: $412.10 Pot ($3 Rake)
UTG mucked 8 9 (two pair, Nines and Eights) and LOST (-$126.10 NET)
BTN showed T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pair, Tens and Fours) and WON $409.10 (+$268.10 NET)
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Old 10-07-2007, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: dry pot - was this a bluff or value bet?

I would have folded, too. But i don`t like flop call.
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Old 10-07-2007, 12:42 PM
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Default Re: dry pot - was this a bluff or value bet?

Next time leave out the results..

I would have called this bet anyways, he's clearly using his stack + the diamond card to push you out of the pot. If he wanted value he could have bet less since you dont even have that stack..

But then again.. depends on his history
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Old 10-07-2007, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: dry pot - was this a bluff or value bet?

thoughts on a flop shove?
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Old 10-07-2007, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: dry pot - was this a bluff or value bet?

I'm shoving the flop
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Old 10-07-2007, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: dry pot - was this a bluff or value bet?

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Next time leave out the results..

I would have called this bet anyways, he's clearly using his stack + the diamond card to push you out of the pot. If he wanted value he could have bet less since you dont even have that stack..

But then again.. depends on his history

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calling this is horrible. there is little motivation for pushing me out of the pot, hence the concept of a "dry pot". he still has to show his hand down to the shorty and if he loses, that means he risked all those chips for nothing
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Old 10-07-2007, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: dry pot - was this a bluff or value bet?

and yes, i def should have shoved flop
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Old 10-07-2007, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: dry pot - was this a bluff or value bet?

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thoughts on a flop shove?

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not a fan of anything else, esp. since calling creates the dry sidepot
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