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Old 10-06-2007, 03:33 PM
DavidC DavidC is offline
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Default QJ SB steal on AJxAx

Full Tilt 0.50/1 Hold'em (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, intending to call.
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:55 PM
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Default Re: QJ SB steal on AJxAx

i don't like b/c and i don't see why you would even think to use it. i'm fine with c/c or b/f river and i really like everything else.
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Old 10-06-2007, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: QJ SB steal on AJxAx

I'm going to 'tool' this hand, but for now I think c/c looks better. Basically we get an extra bet if he intended to check down TT-66, Kx and will pay off with them. We lose a bet if he holds Ax+. Since the latter hand is more common + he may very well bet his PP, I prefer c/c. Also if he holds air c/c is better. Agaisnt an unknown I hate b/f getting almost 10:1 in a 6max blind-war.
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Old 10-06-2007, 06:59 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: QJ SB steal on AJxAx

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Full Tilt 0.50/1 Hold'em (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, intending to call.

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I see no logic in this play unless you think villain is going to bluff raise a very large percent of the time yet fold KK/QQ/KJ.
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Old 10-06-2007, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: QJ SB steal on AJxAx

pretty much because I'd hate myself for b/f and I think I'd get pwned if I c/c
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Old 10-06-2007, 07:21 PM
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pretty much because I'd hate myself for b/f and I think I'd get pwned if I c/c

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What pwns you if you check-call that doesn't pwn you when you bet-call?
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Old 10-06-2007, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: QJ SB steal on AJxAx

I LOVE playing against guys that donk rivers against me, if I am bluffing I get to release and if I am not I get an extra bet. If I am up against someone who is tricky I get to call and still get the value bet on the river.
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