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Old 10-06-2007, 02:54 AM
Chargers In 07 Chargers In 07 is offline
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Default NL$10: AJ no longer TPTK

Hand wasn't played by me but I found this confusing. Villain is >70%vpip but don't know the other stats. What are you doing on this turn?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($9.75)
BB ($7.55)
UTG ($10.45)
UTG+1 ($11.40)
MP1 ($10.65)
MP2 ($6.35)
MP3 ($9.55)
CO ($6.10)
Hero ($10.25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $0.10, Hero raises to $.50, 2 folds, CO calls $0.40.

Flop: ($1.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, Hero bets $0.85, CO calls $0.85.

Turn: ($2.95) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO bets $.60, Hero?

Converter wasn't working but cleaned up as best I could.
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:09 AM
raymond715 raymond715 is offline
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Default Re: NL$10: AJ no longer TPTK

i suppose at 10NL this could mean a myriad of things, from a decent player i would expect a PSB here with a vulnerable made hand, i.e. ass end straight or 2pair. w/o specific reads, i call turn, hope to check down river( obv exception non-spade queen). Hero's getting almost 5-1...at this limit CO might have some spadey draw w/ middle pair here as well, who knows. crappy spot
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:48 AM
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Default Re: NL$10: AJ no longer TPTK

These bets are so hard to read. I mean 60c into 3 dollars? seriously? And yet it happens all the time in these games for some reason, I don't understand it. Honestly you might be good, you might not be, I probably call the turn because he's clearly not going to make it THAT expensive on the river
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:50 AM
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Default Re: NL$10: AJ no longer TPTK

ok river is a blank like 5d. He bets $.80, easy call?
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:59 AM
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Default Re: NL$10: AJ no longer TPTK

now getting what around 4-1 on river? i call and expect to see him turn over K9s or something
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Old 10-06-2007, 04:04 AM
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These bets are so hard to read. I mean 60c into 3 dollars? seriously? And yet it happens all the time in these games for some reason, I don't understand it.

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I've noticed that the really bad players use these tiny bets as "cheap" bluffs. The concept of pot odds does not even enter the play.

Then again, a sizable portion of the somewhat better players seem to use tiny bets as "raise me, please" plays.

For the above reasons, I agree with you. Call looks like the right thing to do.
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Old 10-06-2007, 04:24 AM
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Default Re: NL$10: AJ no longer TPTK

call turn/call rvr is fine.

idk what play is like in this limit but pooshing the turn might be better.
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Old 10-06-2007, 05:04 AM
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Default Re: NL$10: AJ no longer TPTK

On weekends the play gets occasionally pretty weird. Just last night I personally witnessed four 10NL tables with players/flop at 18% or less. It's almost as if the multitabling, non-regular bottomfeeders crawl out of their holes to prey on purely recreational players - they devour the fish and end up with one another on the same tables, each with 120+ BB stacks. And you'd be stupid to leave such an obviously lucrative table, since everyone has a huge stack of money, and they are all really bad players, right...

The best name I can think of for those tables: Japanese stone gardens.
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