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Old 10-06-2007, 03:09 AM
RockRattler RockRattler is offline
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Default QQ with a terrible image

A few orbits ago I have been caught bluffing and after that I have had to lay down my hand in some rather big pots.

Im running at 21/20/7 - with Att to steal blinds at 53%

Villain seems aggressive but havn't 3bet me before this.
He is running 20/17/2.6

Note that the table is four handed.

Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
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BB: $71.26
UTG: $104.25
Hero (BTN): $112.28
SB: $216.96

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $10</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $27</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $42.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $81.28 and is All-In</font>
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:42 AM
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Default Re: QQ with a terrible image

It really looks like he's either got AA/KK here or is just trying to cheaply resteal the pot over your weak 4bet. Shoving here folds out a lot of weak hands and most likely turns your hand into a bluff. Sure he could conceivably have JJ/AK here, but almost no one would min 5bet with them. Seems weird but I'd just call and let him bluff off a weaker hand, plus you're pretty much getting odds to set mine against AA/KK.

If you think your image is really that terrible though shoving could be fine if you think he calls with worse
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:46 AM
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Default Re: QQ with a terrible image

The 3bet 5bet minraises from him = the fashionable line today of a valueadding hand.
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:47 AM
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Default Re: QQ with a terrible image

@Irishman

im a bit unsure what your saying. Do you want to call his 5bet?
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:48 AM
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The 3bet 5bet minraises from him = the fashionable line today of a valueadding hand.

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ok - so what would you do? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-06-2007, 10:24 AM
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Default Re: QQ with a terrible image

bump - interested in day shifts opinion [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-06-2007, 10:33 AM
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Default Re: QQ with a terrible image

this short handed, if he flips aa/kk, it's a cooler. if this were 7+ handed I fold, which I've done several times to aces. I stick it in. Esp with your image, he could be looking you up as thin as AQ/small pp. nh
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Old 10-06-2007, 10:58 AM
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Default Re: QQ with a terrible image

4betting QQ in position is terrible nearly 100% of the time in this situation
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Old 10-06-2007, 11:03 AM
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4betting QQ in position is terrible nearly 100% of the time in this situation

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Why?
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Old 10-06-2007, 11:08 AM
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Default Re: QQ with a terrible image

b/c unless he's an complete idiot his calling range is mainly AA/KK/AK. we have position, we can let him bluff, etc. etc. etc.

also, your image isn't terrible, when its 35/30, then you can say its terrible
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