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only had about 15 hands on opponent, he was running at 38/14 or something like that. [/ QUOTE ] LMAO 15 hands and you bother using the stats as reference? hahaha. Who cares what you rep? If you are going to 4bet shove just to REP a hand and make people fold then you belong in microstakes. You must be a gimmick account. |
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Fold and don't 3 bet flop.
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A) You are being Yetied B) He has 22/8x C) He is a crackhead One of the above. Tbh I think the question is push or fold, not call. I think I fold this. [/ QUOTE ] Villian can def have an overpair too. |
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thanks for the replies. i really could have done with extra time on this hand as it really did baffle me given i am very rarely in this type of situation.
i felt i had no fold equity by shoving, but yet felt i was just about getting odds especially if he checks behind on the turn. as you'll see below, the turn card gave me a gutshot as well, i went all the way down on the time bar and then called. i almost all post hands where the player had a very good hands, so this could be a bit of a surprise. Converted at KJpoker.com Comments and ratings can be found there. 5 players, seat 8 is the button Seat 1: <font color="#C80000">HERO</font> ($495.00) Seat 3: UTG ($591.00) Seat 6: CO ($276.90) Seat 8: BTN ($505.55) Seat 10: SB ($706.50) SB posts small blind, $3.00 <font color="#C80000">HERO</font> posts big blind, $6.00 Dealing to <font color="#C80000">HERO</font>: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] UTG folds CO folds BTN raises to $12 SB folds <font color="#C80000">HERO</font> calls Dealing flop: (Pot is $27.00) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#C80000">HERO</font> bets $24 BTN raises to $48 <font color="#C80000">HERO</font> raises to $135 BTN raises to $252 <font color="#C80000">HERO</font> calls Dealing turn: (Pot is $531.00) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#C80000">HERO</font> checks BTN is all-in $241.55 <font color="#C80000">HERO</font> is all-in $231 Dealing river: (Pot is $1,003.55) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Showdown: (Pot is $1,003.55) <font color="#C80000">HERO</font> has J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] BTN has 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] thanks again for the replies. i think most of the time he flips over an 8 or an overpair. these are the type of hands which makes any decision never as automatic as we'd like. |
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awesome turn play dude
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yeah, the problem with my play is a usually dont shove draws on the flop in situations like this if i dont think i have any fold equity and would fold on the turn if i check and he shoves (or he shoves turn if i am in position).
however, here the extra 4 outs, plus i thought [censored] it ill call, so i might as well have shoved the flop if im not folding on the turn anyway, as it at least i may have some fold equity vs his worst hand range whereas he i have none. |
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damn...how could y screw up this hand so badly?
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damn...how could y screw up this hand so badly? [/ QUOTE ] i dont think it's a massive screw up though. i like my bet-3bet flop. he then makes a really weedy 4bet. now i looked at the size of the reraise and the pot, didnt really want to fold, but i thought i had basically no fold equity, so in these situations i usually call. however, i failed to realise that by doing so i will check-call the turn, and so if doing this on the turn i should have shoved on the flop. when calling the flop i had planned to check-fold the turn, but then, especially given the extra 4 outs, i thought a fold/call decision was so marginal that i should call. what would you do differently? i think fold flop, shoving flop and my line are all pretty valid lines, but i dont think my line is too bad. just a nightmare situation with odds. |
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LOLOL...u played this hand soooooooooooooooooo bad. not sure what is worse, flop or turn but that is really the only question in this hand.
also Yeti must feel like a genius when he sees posts like this. |
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how did i play the turn badly? i have 2 decisions:
check or shove: i think there is a greater chance he checks behind than he folds to a shove, so i check. edit: that is not correct logic, but i basically thought there is no way he is ever folding, so i might as well check and hope he checks behind. call his shove: if i am losing EV i think it's not much at all. please lucid explain what i have done so badly as i genuinely cant see it. i'm not saying i haven't played it really badly, just i can't see how it's that bad given the alternatives. |
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