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[DeadMoneyDad]

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Dobson seriously considering moving to 3rd party candidate


Rasmussen poll : Looks like it will help Dems alot

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If he is stupid enough to do this he will elect Hillary in a Bill "landslide."


D$D<--seen this move at least once before

[Legislurker]

Dobson is still insisting on 100% backing of his war on queers. Youre either all nazi or not nazi in his book. Trying to dictate to a Rep nominee that they can't cross him on his turf. The soul of the Party is at stake, and maybe the Republican Party needs to die. Dobson could do freedom and America a favor by being its biggest enemy.

[DeadMoneyDad]

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Dobson is still insisting on 100% backing of his war on queers. Youre either all nazi or not nazi in his book. Trying to dictate to a Rep nominee that they can't cross him on his turf. The soul of the Party is at stake, and maybe the Republican Party needs to die. Dobson could do freedom and America a favor by being its biggest enemy.

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As a life time Republican, one who can personally serprate church and state in his head, if the GOP can't wake up to this fact it deserves to die a slow painful death.

I shudder to think what might happen to the country overall, but we have survived much worse disasters than the death of a short sighted political party.


D$D<--actually third generation GOP'er

[TheEngineer]

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Dobson is still insisting on 100% backing of his war on queers. Youre either all nazi or not nazi in his book. Trying to dictate to a Rep nominee that they can't cross him on his turf. The soul of the Party is at stake, and maybe the Republican Party needs to die. Dobson could do freedom and America a favor by being its biggest enemy.

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Perhaps we should send him some emails encouraging him to do this, at citizenlink@family.org .

[TheEngineer]

Also, I received an email from FoF today (in reply to an email I sent them asking why they think Internet horse race betting is okay, but poker is not). Check it out:

Dear Engineer:

Thank you for your e-mail to Focus on the Family. It’s my privilege to get back to you on behalf of our staff.

It was good of you to share your thoughts regarding Chad Hill’s “Internet Gambling Take Action” article. In doing so, you asked why Mr. Hill seems to be concerned about some forms of Internet gaming, but not all. Simply put, we feel that much of our efforts would be in vain if we “bit off more than we could chew” by addressing the entire gambling industry at once. All forms combined, gambling is an $85 billion industry in the U.S. alone, which is much bigger, wealthier, and more powerful than any religious or grassroots organization. That said, in dealing with the gambling issue, we believe our best strategy is to prioritize by picking and choosing our battles carefully. To use an analogy, like firefighters, our goal is to determine which part of the “fire” poses the most dangerous threat, do what we can to extinguish it, and then move on to other areas.

This is why we’ve chosen to “sound the alarm” with regard to Internet gambling. At this point, we should make it clear that we are, in fact, opposed to *all* forms of gambling. However, it’s our belief that Internet gambling presents the most invasive and addictive form of gambling, considering the fact that with the click of a mouse, anyone can access over 3,000 virtual casinos, opening the door to financial loss, damaged relationships, and a host of other problems.

Turning to your comments about the World Trade Organization (WTO), perhaps a word of clarification is in order. When the U.S. signed WTO documents concerning fair trade, our nation had no intention of letting the WTO dictate American policies on Internet gambling. Had this been included in the agreement, the U.S. probably wouldn’t have signed it. Now the WTO is trying to pack more into the agreement than was originally intended. For this reason, we’re encouraging the U.S. Trade Relations committee to oppose this effort by the WTO and, if necessary, to remove the U.S. from the WTO fair trade agreements.

Thanks again for writing. Though there may be points of disagreements, we hope these few thoughts have helped clarify our perspective. Best wishes to you in the days ahead.

Focus on the Family

[whangarei]

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Also, I received an email from FoF today. Check it out:

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Actually a pretty reasonable response and strategy given their beliefs. Except for the WTO part which is laughable. And the part about the extreme dangers of IG, which I think the recent British study soundly refutes.

[poker007]

hi

I am a christian myself and I have accepted Jesus as my saviour.

Earlier in this thread someone made some remarks about certain christian "leaders" and their sins. First of all I don't know if christians sin less than other people. I think best case (for christians) is that they do sin less on average than non-christians. But that's not the difference between christians and non-christians. The difference is that christians have accepted Jesus as their saviour and that he takes their sins away and they will not be judged on judgement day (that's what the bible says) and they get eternal life .

Anyway I do play poker and although I hold to a literal interpretation of the bible I do know that the word poker is not mentioned in it. I think that if some people don't want to play it that's fine , but they should not try to enforce their opinion onto everyone else. I personally won't encourage anyone to play it.

I do realize that there can be problems related to poker like debts, addiction, "bad" behaviour and others. And as pokerplayers we shouldn't ignore those issues. But those things don't happen only in poker. All of those issues are quite frequent outside poker too and I think that poker is only responsible for a minor % of all those issues.


I do want to say something about the WTO too. I am very certain that the WTO is a bad organization and that it would be good if it would disappear. You might think the WTO is good atm cause it might help you with poker (to keep online poker legal), but the WTO has been and will enforce many things upon all nations that have joined it without that all nations have to agree. The WTO, UN and such are pretty dangerous organizations cause they escape all democratic control ..... noone is checking what they are doing. One example the WTO wants to force upon us is the "codex alimentarius" .... they want to tell us what we can and can't eat.

[ubercuber]

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lol. Now I know how the Muslim's feel when a few douchebags claim to speak for all Muslims. Please don't lump all "Christians" in with these tards.

I was a minister at a non-denom church until about a year ago and I could give two $hits whether or not the 10 commandments is displayed.

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And we are surprised that you aren't still a preacher???

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Ha! I was thinking the same thing. Never met a preacher that used the word "tards" (or douchebag for that matter, but I don't find that offensive).

[ubercuber]

I was under the impression that we gain way more out of our involvement with WTO than pretty much everybody else.

Is withdrawing from the WTO as simple as FOF makes it sound?

[DeadMoneyDad]

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I was under the impression that we gain way more out of our involvement with WTO than pretty much everybody else.

Is withdrawing from the WTO as simple as FOF makes it sound?

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Really depends on your perspective.

For Bush to threaten to do it is pretty much meaningless given he is a lame duck and Trade pacts may be considered by some "foreign policy." I don't remember but did the Senate do anyting when the US joined the WTO, I remember the sucessor organization never got through the Senate?

WTO info


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