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AJo - Easy call?
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t200/t400 (Ante: t50) 8 players Converter Seat 1: droghedapaul (14,542) Seat 2: GQ9999 (7,720) Seat 3: matt7898 (18,528) Seat 5: woody37 (12,721) Seat 6: flyingfalconer (19,660) Seat 7: bobbyunger9 (12,718) Seat 8: Mr Roeho (6,955) Seat 9: fatmanscoop82 (62,477) woody37 posts the small blind of 200 flyingfalconer posts the big blind of 400 The button is in seat #3 Pre-flop: (8 players) GQ9999 is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, fatmanscoop82 calls t400 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1000)</font>, droghedapaul folds, <font color="#cc0000"> GQ9999 raises to t1600</font>, matt7898 folds, <font color="#cc0000"> woody37 raises all-in t12671</font>. What now? Why? |
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Re: AJo - Easy call?
I would have pushed this immediately without even thinking about raising. As played, it's much tougher, since his three bet seems like a narrow range of 1010+; AQ+. I don't konw - any reads? What did Fatmanscoop (redneck?) do? Did he call or fold? lol, kinduv important. I assume he folded.
I'm too lazy to do the math, but if he has any idea that are you committed here given the action, I probably let it go. Just push preflop next time. Barry |
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Re: AJo - Easy call?
Barry already answered it -
With M=7 and AJ this is an easy push (if there are antes i think it's better to play with M and not with xBB) - you could also raise 3000, so it's easy to call a push. As played here i would fold - you don't get the odds you need as you will be an underdog most of the times and likely to be dominated. |
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Re: AJo - Easy call?
If ive got the math right your getting 3 to 2. I don't know the exact figures bu i'd call if the villains range is reasonably wide or if you've seen him do this before without a hand. If his range is 10s +,AQ+ then you have to fold.
This hand is mostly read dependant though. |
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Re: AJo - Easy call?
Push Pre is looking like a much better alternative.
I'm folding here, this is hard ever less than AJ+ or 55+. |
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Re: AJo - Easy call?
I think your line is fine. Fold now.
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Re: AJo - Easy call?
Isn't pushing in this spot a bit overkill? Yeah we do have an m of 7....but pushing all in with a stack of over 7000 to win 1000 is a bit over the top.
Isn't a raise to 3/4 times big blind and then folding to a shove here the optimum play? |
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Re: AJo - Easy call?
No - def. not
Make this play 3 times in a row and this was your tournament. With stack/pot ratios so low you are committed to a hand once you decide to play. The point isn't risk 7000 to win 1000 or 100000 to win 1 - you have to calculate your EV, and shoving here is a +EV move. You might raise with the intention to call to a shove or to play a go'n'go, but your M is simply to low to risk a hand to a restealer. |
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Re: AJo - Easy call?
Nothing wrong with the fold here, but why the 4x raise? If you are raising to steal, but folding to strength, a 2.5x-3x raise can accomplish that while spewing fewer chips. FWIW, when the CO rises 4x and I'm in the blinds, my screen starts flashing RE-STEAL in big green letters...
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Re: AJo - Easy call?
Guess you have to fold this,so a shove would def have been the better option.
Personally I have problems playing stacks like OP's got here. I totally agree that you really can't raise to steal,then fold to a shove,it's just that even with antes a shove seems a little overkill. I see what levAA is saying,M=7,so shove,but whenever I do that(or for that matter when someone else does it) I feel the cards are virtually face up. No-one ever does this w a big pp,so it's big A or medium pair. |
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