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#1
10-04-2007, 03:17 PM
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($16) 2 JJ hands
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HAND #1 ------------------ CO is a 14/7 and is on all of my tables. He's a huge winner on sharkscope at the $16 level. Limper is 47/15 thus far. Can I profitably shove? Poker Stars, $15 + $1 NL Hold'em Tournament, 25/50 Blinds, 6 Players LegoPoker Hand History Converter BTN: 3,170 Hero (SB): 1,345 BB: 1,010 UTG: 2,760 MP: 2,675 CO: 1,160 Pre-Flop: (75) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB) UTG folds, MP calls 50, <font color="red">CO raises to 250</font>, 2 folds, Hero ??? ------------------ HAND #2 ------------------ Villain is 36/20 with infinite aggression to this point. Poker Stars, $15 + $1 NL Hold'em Tournament, 50/100 Blinds, 7 Players LegoPoker Hand History Converter UTG+1: 1,910 Hero (MP): 1,485 CO: 2,585 BTN: 2,035 SB: 2,805 BB: 1,465 UTG: 1,215 Pre-Flop: (150) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP) 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to 300</font>, 2 folds, SB calls 250, BB folds Flop: (700) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">SB bets 1,200</font>, Hero ??? 
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#2
10-04-2007, 03:21 PM
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Re: ($16) 2 JJ hands
If CO is playing a ton of tables here i'd put his range on 99+ AQ+ against someone who is 47vpip. If the limper is raising 15% he's folding to a push most of the time. Without running the #'s i'd say a push is good but if CO has high flop agression i might call and check/raise allin on a low flop and check/fold any ace high flop.
Second hand i hate. If he's 36/20/infinity i think he's bluffing a lot here but mehhh it's so ugly to call in this spot imo. I think i would just let this one go.
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#3
10-04-2007, 03:48 PM
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Re: ($16) 2 JJ hands
Hand #1 raise to 250 seems weird to me for CO to have AQ or 99 (though I suppose the cutoff is somewhere around there, and whether 1010 is part of his range or not is obviously very important)
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#4
10-04-2007, 04:01 PM
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Re: ($16) 2 JJ hands
With JJ in both hands I would fold but for different reasons.
#1 - too early to get desperate. you have 27 big blinds and you are not in a position to be blinded out. Why risk so much for so little. #2 pretty weak raise by you. The worry is if you get called. IF someone goes over the top you can fold. You have 14 big blinds and NOW is the time to start to accumulate chips - if you bet go all in and steal the blinds - you really do not want somebody to call. On the flop - hmmmmm - now you only have 1000 left (10BBs) - I would get out and fight another day knowing that your fight is now an all in fight - but at least YOU can pick the time. remember - now you will be going against players that will be tightening up their game with bubble syndrum. Easier to steal pots and accumulate. Thats why you need a bigger raise with JJ. IMHO
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#5
10-04-2007, 04:06 PM
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Re: ($16) 2 JJ hands
7 pfr is pretty tight. Tho it is 6 handed. Are your PT stats filtered?
2nd hand I fold flop, 1st one is dependent on whether or not it's filtered. If his pfr is actually 7 I just muck as you're only ahead significantly of 2-3 of his opening hands (99/TT, maybe he opens AJs).
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#6
10-04-2007, 09:32 PM
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Re: ($16) 2 JJ hands
fold 1 no way am i messing with 14/7 dude here. you end up playing for set here so u cant call due to stacks... you cant shov because hes always calling and youre flipping at best always.
ship #2 so quickly yo
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