Good spot for a push?

[Mr. GQ]

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t400/t800
(Ante: t100)
8 players
Converter

Full Tilt Poker Game #3749959740: $6,000 Guarantee (Rebuy) (28070981), Table 63 - 400/800 Ante 100 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:11:11 ET - 2007/10/03

Seat 1: KBroz (17,018)
Seat 2: poopy dog (13,737)
Seat 3: Tuuuuuuut (21,430)
Seat 4: LieInOurGraves (12,130)
Seat 5: GQ9999 (6,730)
Seat 6: chipmagnet70 (6,110)
Seat 7: xxFreddyJamesxx (15,489)
Seat 8: jere_spades (25,485)
Seat 9: A Mortar Forker (32,439)


Hero: GQ9999
Button: chipmagnet70
SB: xxFreddyJamesxx
BB: jere_spades



Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
5 folds


Push or fold and why?

[levAA]

It's nearly impossible to answer this without some information on the blinds.

If you decide to steal/push your cards are not that important - much more important is are the players acting behind you - are they tight - is the whole table tight (is the pot usually taken down preflop) - are the players good - what range will you be set at when you push - what where your last actions (have you already pushed in CO and CO-1).

On a tight table with M=4 I would push Q6 from the button.
On a loose table i'd fold.
If my image is tight - I push - if loose - i'd fold.

You see there are more factors to calculate than only the cards and stack sizes.

[Mr. GQ]

I agree with all your considerations, and typically factor in everything you mentioned.

What if I told you I was just moved to this table, how would you play it?

[BarryLyndon]

Kinduv a really marginal spot and I would bedgrudingly wait for another before pushing. Unless, of course, you are near the bubble, whereas you can get away with a push here since the blinds will rationalize folding even stronger hands on those grounds.

Barry

[Dalek]

I choose shove if you have no information. Over the next two hands your stack will fall by about 1500 and you won't have enough to scare anyone. Some people would say wait for a better hand but i disagree. While a better hand is likely to come (Q6 sucks), it will probably come when you are in early position. This means there is more chance someone behind you has a good hand.

Also, being as you will be really short, you may get called by more than one player who may decide to check it down. If you get called by one person now you're probably a 65-35 dog. If two people are in the pot with you and you have a good but not great hand your odds will be similar to this and you won't increase you stack by as much anyway as you are short.

These things + the fold equity = shove

[runout_mick]

In a vacuum, with no reads, I'ma poosh.

Are there no good converters for FT? This is tough to read.

[levAA]

[ QUOTE ]
I agree with all your considerations, and typically factor in everything you mentioned.

What if I told you I was just moved to this table, how would you play it?

[/ QUOTE ]

then i'd fold - this is a hand that needs a read before pushing

[Mr. GQ]

Good point.

[homanga]

I'm folding here, -EV vs a Random hand and your pushing into one big stack that could call with a much wider range than others.

[gobboboy]

Wait.

It says you are the button one spot and then it says you're the CO in another? Which is it?

In either case this is a ridiculously easy shove. There's over 2100 in the pot and you have queen high in the CO/Button. I'd jam here with 8k.